@Nym as an example, what happens to natural gas if you release it into a room.

@sickburnbro it equalizes with the gas around it. Gas expands to fill the available volume of space.

@Nym pinedalegas.com/natural-gas/hazards-of-natural-gas

"Natural gas is always lighter than air, and will rise in a room if allowed to escape from a burner or leaking fitting"

@Nym Now tell me about propane

@sickburnbro nothing you've shown me here changes the fact that to have gas pressure you require containment, and we don't have containment on earth supposedly. You require the magic bandaid of Gravity to act on gases without being a force to create a gas pressure system that has no container.

@Nym upgradedhome.com/can-a-propane-furnace-be-installed-in-a-basement/

'Propane is denser than air and will pool in low areas '

@Nym how does "Gas expands to fill the available volume of space." explain how natural gas rises out of a room, but propane will pool at the bottom?

If your understanding is true, they should behave the same - mix fully into the room's air.

@sickburnbro eventually propane will equalize with the gas around it. So we can have pools of gas then is this what you are saying?

@Nym No - it won't. That is exactly why you need to be careful with it.

Because a slow leak will still cause pooling.

@sickburnbro you cannot have a pool of propane. What will happen to this "pool" over time? Will it just sit there?

@Nym propane101.com/propaneliquidandvapor.htm

"Conversely, if propane is vented into an air tight structure with no air movement, the propane vapor will collect on the floor and rise vertically if more propane is vented into the structure"

this is what I mean by isotherms.

When you have propane, and air at the same temperature, they will separate into layers.

@sickburnbro air tight structure you say? What creates that?

@Nym air tight isn't what you are thinking, because how you think gasses work is not how they work.

The simple fact is that without an EXTERNAL force, propane and air separate over time. ( the same is true for other gasses, helium for example )

@sickburnbro so what external force is stopping earth's air from expanding? Remember that Gravity is not a force.

@Nym That's irrelevant at this point. The point is these gasses separate, which is in violation of how you say gasses work.

@sickburnbro It's not irrelevant, it is the very question we are trying to answer. How can the earth have a gas pressure system of breathable oxygen when there is no force stopping the gas from doing what gas does, which is fill the available volumes of space.

The credited response is "gravity holds the air on the ball", and this can't be demonstrated

@Nym it is, because if gasses separate at the same temperature, you need to answer why, because your assumption that "gasses will expand to fill all space" is wrong, so you assumption that you need containment is wrong.

The two gasses are separated without containment.

@sickburnbro why doesn't oxygen expand into space

@Nym because gasses don't expand to fill all space available.

@sickburnbro @Nym but space is a vacuum supposedly and our gasses should be flying off into space, no?

@milk @Nym livescience.com/why-is-space-a-vacuum.htm space isn't a total vacuum

@milk @Nym or - more specifically - hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/MimiZheng.shtml

@sickburnbro @Nym

I read both which actually don't explain your point at all

From the article:
>The earth's atmosphere exerts pressure on us right now. Although the pressure at an point of earth's surface is the equal. This is true if you are at the same altitude on the earth as someone else. Pressure always acts perpendicular to the surface.

When you think about it, that statement above actually disproves ball earth globe earth whatever you want to call it. Especially when you have nigger degrasse tyson say that Earth is shaped like a pear. NASA has outed itself too many times for me to take any "space science" article you send me seriously

So anyway our gas here on Earth, which is supposedly a ball and is spinning and then also spinning in an orbit around the sun which is also spinning and travelling outward through space is contained here because "Space isn't a full vacuum" despite having such low pressure compared to Earth which your articles fail to explain why Earth has a constant pressure everywhere.

Does this make any sense to you? Because I'm having trouble here understanding globe earth model

@milk @Nym earth doesn't have a constant pressure everywhere.

It has a constant pressure everywhere that is at the same distance from sea level.

This is why if you go on top of a mountain it's harder to breaf, and water takes longer to boil.

@sickburnbro @milk you refuse to acknowledge that the scientific consensus is that a non force holds gas down

@Nym @milk you think I give a shit about "scientific consensus" in 2021, are you fucking fruitloops?

@sickburnbro @milk we're talking about physical aspects of the home we live on, this has been accepted by the best and brightest in the fields for some time as the official narrative.

You're talking to a flat earther, I'm more than willing to believe educated people can be in error so I don't place any value in scientific consensus other than to say this is literally the response any physics teacher will give you.

I mean just answer the question in a plain and succinct way, if you can. What holds our gases onto the surface of the earth? Any source will tell you that it is gravity. I've seen interviews with NASA physicists, university professors, they all answer this in the same way.

If they are wrong, why specifically is it wrong to say that gravity acts on gas?

@Nym @milk the answer is "not as much as you would expect" - it is assumed that a strong burst of energy from the sum could strip a portion of the atmosphere off.[1]

Sure, gravity acts on gas, but that's just a silly handwave of an answer. This is why I mention the propane.

1 ibtimes.com/earths-magnetic-field-crucial-keeping-atmosphere-place-422356

@sickburnbro @milk how does gravity act on gas, can you provide experimentation which has isolated gravity as the cause of an observed effect on gas particles?

@Nym @milk I mean, I don't have reference right now, but one would assume you could quite easily have identical gasses at standard pressure and temperature and measure a change in volume at sea level and 10,000 ft.

@sickburnbro @Nym @milk Can you provide an alternative explanation for why things fall, other than "gravity" and justify why it should not apply to gasses?

@FUCKINGWHOCARES @milk @sickburnbro Gravity isn't even a proper explanation, no mechanism is provided for what actually causes the action (remember it is not a force)

People understood why things fell before Newton created his bandaid for heliocentrism. Relative density explains why things fall. Things that are heavier than the medium they exist in will fall if unsupported. Why is this insufficient?

@Nym @FUCKINGWHOCARES @milk @sickburnbro

Gravity is a force, you are retarded

@DK_Dharmaraj @Nym @FUCKINGWHOCARES @sickburnbro Gravity doesn’t exist!

@milk @DK_Dharmaraj @FUCKINGWHOCARES @Nym @sickburnbro It does.
Look up the Cavendish experiment. All You need is 4 Lead balls in two sizes, a wire, a little mirror, a Laser and You can observe and measure it.

@knibbeler @milk @DK_Dharmaraj @FUCKINGWHOCARES @sickburnbro you cannot manipulate the independent variable to verify it as the cause of your dependant variable. Affirming the consequent is not science.

@Nym @knibbeler @FUCKINGWHOCARES @milk @sickburnbro

The Greeks figured out that the Earth is round from measuring shadows, you are a willing or unwilling agent of global jewry and I'm not particularly interested in finding out which

@DK_Dharmaraj @Nym @FUCKINGWHOCARES @knibbeler @sickburnbro There are equal quality experiments which prove the Earth is flat and debunk the tower/shadow experiment as being a good proof for round Earth.

Again, none of this matters if you don’t want it to, believe whatever you want but don’t call me a jewish agent just because I don’t believe something THEY pushed on me for all my life, seriously