@ryo @PhenomX6 @orekix Tech wasn't just started by hobbyists. There were also universities involved. It was a combination of hobbyists, investors, universities, and non-profits. We just need the right balance again.

@xianc78 @PhenomX6 @orekix Or perhaps we don't need anything new and shiny, we just need to recognize the errors, and fix it instead.
If you think about it, there's really nothing wrong with the tech stack we already have, there's only wrong with how this tech stack has been utilized over the past almost 2 decades.

@ryo @PhenomX6 @xianc78 @orekix I used to think Web 3.0 was just term coined to describe decentralized web basically like fediverse stuff. But apparently it’s become something of a movement commandeered by corporate interests? Is dWeb a better name to use?

@wrongthink @xianc78 @orekix @ryo Web 2.0 was a spook term used to describe social networks like FB, just saying.

@PhenomX6 @xianc78 @orekix @ryo When describing my ideal structure for the web I’m just going to have to start being very verbose. There is no safe description that is both succinct and that normies can understand.

@wrongthink @PhenomX6 @orekix @ryo Same. I thought it would also refer to things like WebTorrent and IPFS, but it seems like everyone refers it to shit like NFTs and blockchains instead of traditional databases.

I really wanted ZeroNet to be the future despite all its flaws. It was the most "normie friendly" P2P web out there. But that project died ever since the failed 8chan bunker back in 2019. I assumed most of the users of said bunker would be smart enough to use VPNs or Tor but apparently not.

@wrongthink @PhenomX6 @xianc78 @orekix I'd rather describe it as "yet another corporate attempt of taking over the internet".
If you think about it, blockchain is still centralized technology, it's just that the database (the blockchain file) exists on many people's computers rather than 1 server, but apart from that it's still the exact same concept (because the data is identical in all the blockchain files).

So it's really kind of like The Cloud™ 2.0.
The Cloud™ 1.0 is simply another way of saying "hosting on somebody else's computer to which you have no root access to", 2.0 would be more like "hosting on a bunch of other people's computers, and you still don't have root access to it, on top of that you can't do anything but adding to it".

@ryo @PhenomX6 @orekix I also really hate how the LibLeft likes to use Web3 and crypto to shit on capitalism. For Web3, they just view it as corporations having more control over the Internet (which is true to an extent, but a blockchain doesn't have to be run by a corporation). I've heard many claims that Web3 is just a symptom of "late stage capitalism".

They view crypto as a scheme for the rich to evade taxes and that the "real solution" is to abolish money entirely (I guess they don't want to be proven that money can exist without a state or a central bank).