Made a little progress with a communist buddy of mine discussing a few points. He finally acknowledged that there is probably economic disparity in China. This is huge as he likes to pretend that their economic policy has pulled everyone out of poverty and it’s simply untrue. Acknowledging this was a bit of a breakthrough. He also seemed to finally grasp my argument that you can’t use the current market as a strong argument against free market because we do not have a free market.

@thatguyoverthere the freed market will make it easier for the proles seize the means

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@cee @thatguyoverthere leftist anarchists who support markets are mutualists, orange flag
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yee, i did have this discussion with indigo and waltercool before.
From what i've learnt so far, classical mutualists use labor vouchers, neo-proudhonians use the present currency

but for Left-Rothbardians (AnCapComs), it's syncretic: so they use both cryptocurrency (like Monero) and provide mutual aid as well. I know mutualists tend to present themselves as free-market anti-capitalist, whereas left-rothbardians use different semantics and are tryna bridge ancoms and ancaps.
an example is them using the Neo-Lockean Homesteading Principle to justify workers unions and turning their workplace into their "private" property (going from Pty to Co-op pree much)

i could be wrong, since im more into minimalist and georgist economics and should read more Kevin Carson... im always open to corrections,
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@cee @thatguyoverthere @neet There are other market anarchists (mostly agorists who don't identify as ancap, mutualists, or left-roth) that favor self-employed entrepreneurs over worker-coops or small businesses, but I personally don't think that's feasible.

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