looks like Le Shill LionTM is blocking KF onion address. apparently it's working fine with tor browser bundle
@xianc78 @graf Ungoogled Chromium is a meme. Pale Moon is ancient and will get you hacked. Use Chromium™
@xianc78 @graf I use LibreWolf, Iridium, Pale Meme, QuteBrowser, Netsurf, and Lynx, depending on what I browse for.
I replaced Ungoolagged Chromium for Iridium when I wouldn't install it without having to install SoystemD as a dependency from the AUR.
But then somebody else pointed out that Artix has a repo with a version without the SoystemD dependency, but by the time I got the message, I already had Iridium fully set up.
I replaced Ungoolagged Chromium for Iridium when I wouldn't install it without having to install SoystemD as a dependency from the AUR.
But then somebody else pointed out that Artix has a repo with a version without the SoystemD dependency, but by the time I got the message, I already had Iridium fully set up.
@ryo @graf I used to use PaleMoon but then the lead developer started blocking certain add-ons for shitty moral reasons before leaving the project enitrely. It sucks because it's the only browser that is truly independent from the Google/Mozilla duopoly (or monopoly since Mozilla is clearly a second head of Google) since it runs on a fork of the browser engine that Firefox used to use.
LibreWolf is what I mostly use now. I also have Tor Browser. I don't use minimalist browsers because I have no use for them (I like add-ons).
@xianc78 @graf Netsurf, lynx, and Dillo are independent browsers too, though none of them support HTML5, CSS3, and ECMA (which is a good thing if you never need to use any websoytes), plus Dillo is outdated with its development being stopped back in 2016 or some shit.
And lynx is a command line-only browser.
And Netsurf is still new, and thus far from feature complete.
And lynx is a command line-only browser.
And Netsurf is still new, and thus far from feature complete.
@xianc78 @graf I thought they were working on it, but apparently the last update was over 2 years ago (basically development stopped as soon as Burn Loot Murder got angry over Floydd overdosing himself).
https://www.netsurf-browser.org/
https://www.netsurf-browser.org/
@ryo @xianc78 @graf If you want a truly impossible mode challenge, try to avoid dbus. It's a systemd component. Most distributions "without systemd" actually have every single component of systemd other than the init system (so they may still have all of these other than the actual init called systemd: http://troubleshooters.com/linux/systemd/images/systemd_modularity.svg ).
And I mention dbus in particular because good luck avoiding that one even on the BSDs, not even installing OpenBSD will get rid of that one. It's a dependency for both Qt and GTK3 and up. It can be patched out of GTK3, but no distribution does that other than Hyperbola, and I don't know if it can be patched out of GTK4. Anyway, at least if you use a BSD, potential future vulnerabilities will be less likely to affect you, I guess. Especially OpenBSD.
Also, Luakit is similar to QuteBrowser but uses LuaJIT instead of Python, GTK instead of Qt, and Webkit instead of WebEngine. Nyxt is another Webkit browser, but it's written in Common Lisp instead, and is more Emacs-like. It can also be hooked up to Emacs ( https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XarwuynpWkA ), like any Lisp program. I still have to do that myself, only haven't because I have been very very sick of technology in the last few years.
And I mention dbus in particular because good luck avoiding that one even on the BSDs, not even installing OpenBSD will get rid of that one. It's a dependency for both Qt and GTK3 and up. It can be patched out of GTK3, but no distribution does that other than Hyperbola, and I don't know if it can be patched out of GTK4. Anyway, at least if you use a BSD, potential future vulnerabilities will be less likely to affect you, I guess. Especially OpenBSD.
Also, Luakit is similar to QuteBrowser but uses LuaJIT instead of Python, GTK instead of Qt, and Webkit instead of WebEngine. Nyxt is another Webkit browser, but it's written in Common Lisp instead, and is more Emacs-like. It can also be hooked up to Emacs ( https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XarwuynpWkA ), like any Lisp program. I still have to do that myself, only haven't because I have been very very sick of technology in the last few years.
@TerminalAutism @graf @xianc78 I know Luakit, I only don't use it because it's not entirely configurable using config files alone, which is the case with QuteBrowser.
So I literally copy over ~/.config/qutebrowser and ~/.local/share/qutebrowser to my other computers, and I have literally everything ready to go.
Not much so with Luakit.
So I literally copy over ~/.config/qutebrowser and ~/.local/share/qutebrowser to my other computers, and I have literally everything ready to go.
Not much so with Luakit.
@ryo @graf @xianc78
I haven't had that problem yet because I have barely configured any of my browsers. I guess I hate web browsers so much, just inherently, that the very thought of doing anything with one instantly drains all of my energy.
My mind doesn't want to do any of that, it wants to abolish JavaScript forever and to just use eww in Emacs, or w3m, or Links. Or to take over Greenland or Iceland, kick all their inhabitants out because they don't matter, and then move all the people that actually matter there so we can communicate in GNU/real life and not have to use the internet. Greenland has more land. Iceland has a volcano, which is kinda dangerous, particularly on the western side, but can also be used for geothermal power, but it's also even colder than Greenland.
Nyxt is cool, though, but entirely because Lisp is cool, not because of the whole being a web browser with JavaScript thing, that I am not fond of. I would like to move as much session management functionality out of the browser as possible, and I assume that would be easier with a browser that I can connect to my editor, but I haven't tried to do that yet, because again, no energy for that stuff. Technology generally doesn't fill me with excitement anymore. It only fills me with expectations of frustration and of nothing working correctly, and of documentation being wrong, if even available. All of that, of course, is what happens every single time.
And yes, that segue about going full Hernan Cortes in Iceland and Greenland was absolutely necessary, it is how my brain works. Still more viable than building Zeon, unfortunately. For newtypes only, of course.
I haven't had that problem yet because I have barely configured any of my browsers. I guess I hate web browsers so much, just inherently, that the very thought of doing anything with one instantly drains all of my energy.
My mind doesn't want to do any of that, it wants to abolish JavaScript forever and to just use eww in Emacs, or w3m, or Links. Or to take over Greenland or Iceland, kick all their inhabitants out because they don't matter, and then move all the people that actually matter there so we can communicate in GNU/real life and not have to use the internet. Greenland has more land. Iceland has a volcano, which is kinda dangerous, particularly on the western side, but can also be used for geothermal power, but it's also even colder than Greenland.
Nyxt is cool, though, but entirely because Lisp is cool, not because of the whole being a web browser with JavaScript thing, that I am not fond of. I would like to move as much session management functionality out of the browser as possible, and I assume that would be easier with a browser that I can connect to my editor, but I haven't tried to do that yet, because again, no energy for that stuff. Technology generally doesn't fill me with excitement anymore. It only fills me with expectations of frustration and of nothing working correctly, and of documentation being wrong, if even available. All of that, of course, is what happens every single time.
And yes, that segue about going full Hernan Cortes in Iceland and Greenland was absolutely necessary, it is how my brain works. Still more viable than building Zeon, unfortunately. For newtypes only, of course.
@TerminalAutism @graf @ryo We don't need to take over Greenland or Iceland. Bir Tawil is still unclaimed.
@xianc78 @TerminalAutism @graf So many people decided to claim it, and dumped it soon afterwards.
After all, it's unclaimed for a reason.
After all, it's unclaimed for a reason.
@ryo @graf @TerminalAutism How many of them were even taken seriously by their own founders. One of them claimed it so that his daughter can become a princess.
@TerminalAutism @graf @xianc78 The point of configuring browsers is exactly to make them more useful.
Like with QuteBrowser, being able to enable and disable JS in a single hotkey is a must have (so you only enable JS for soytes you trust well enough to not spy on you), or a hotkey to swap between no proxy, VPN, Tor, and I2P.
And maybe some theming too, because QuteBrowser looks ugly as fuck out of the box.
Like with QuteBrowser, being able to enable and disable JS in a single hotkey is a must have (so you only enable JS for soytes you trust well enough to not spy on you), or a hotkey to swap between no proxy, VPN, Tor, and I2P.
And maybe some theming too, because QuteBrowser looks ugly as fuck out of the box.
@ryo @xianc78 @graf @TerminalAutism
That's what I do with luakit. Only one file, actually, not two.
It just werks®
you must be doing something wrong.
That's what I do with luakit. Only one file, actually, not two.
It just werks®
you must be doing something wrong.
