@abitgray @icedquinn That can also be debunked. Objects accelerate as they fall. The Earth also has to be accelerating in that case, but if that's true, then objects will fall FASTER if you drop them a second time.

@icedquinn @xianc78 @abitgray Electrostatic pulls are a strong field we can measure in the real world.

Strong enough they requires the strong nuclear force to keep the nucleus of atoms larger than hydrogen together against the repulsion of the protons. Strong enough that is most of fission’s power, hurdling two parts of a nucleus away from each other.

@icedquinn @xianc78 @abitgray Neither am I, but I did study the classical parts in college.

You know “like charges repel, opposite charges attract?” That can be easily demonstrated on your tabletop.

A normal everyday atom has an equal number of protons in the nucleus and electrons in a probabilistic cloud around it, resulting in a net zero charge,

(Don’t ask about the quantum mechanics magic that keeps it from collapsing on itself, although note the distances are very very vast on the scale of the insides of atoms, and electrons sometimes do get captured by a nucleus.)

OK, if you accept this, a standard nucleus beyond normal hydrogen (which is just one proton and one electron) is a soup of protons and neutrons. Something keeps those protons in check; for unstable isotopes eventually something happens, with much more energy than can come from chemical means.

That too powerful radioactivity was what prompted us to probe deeper than the cloud of electrons in the bought of nuclear physics that followed the Thirty Years That Shook Physics which is quantum mechanics and is basically about the electrons.

@icedquinn @xianc78 @abitgray This gets into physics I definitely don’t know much about.

Gravity is very much unlike the three other fundamental forces in nature, which are much stronger and easier to measure (well, aside from that apple dropping on your head :-), that is electromagnetism, the strong nuclear force, and the weak nuclear force which I haven’t studied.

Gravity is relatively weak, but works at distances fantastically larger than the other three, interplanetary and interstellar for example, why there are solar systems and galaxies.

And while Einstein and company have come up with neat elaborations and perfections on what Newton first described really well, no one has ever been able to “unify” it with the other three. Whereas we have theories that do an excellent job of unifying electromagnetism and the weak force, and a good enough but still not quite right one that adds the strong force.

So I’ll have to pass on this phenomena, but it sounds extremely cool assuming they did their measurements correctly (weeps for cold fusion…).

@abitgray @icedquinn @xianc78 I guess these people don’t realize they’re furthering Protestant lies and propaganda to make the Roman Catholic Church look bad?

Like Columbus had so much trouble getting funded because almost everyone else correctly knew the diameter of the earth (this goes back to classical Greece we think, except we’re not sure about unit conversions) vs. his about one half of that, and that his men would die of thirst and hunger before reaching the Far East/India?

@icedquinn @xianc78 @abitgray Important to remember that for the the brilliant classical Greeks geometry was their alpha and omega of math, and of course the diameter of the earth is a geometric thing. Heck, the Greek word is “land measurement,” the geo root is obvious, metry almost as much.

So for example they discovered to their great dismay irrational numbers through geometry, and:

“Hippasus, however, was not lauded for his efforts: according to one legend, he made his discovery while out at sea, and was subsequently thrown overboard by his fellow Pythagoreans ‘… for having produced an element in the universe which denied the… doctrine that all phenomena in the universe can be reduced to whole numbers and their ratios.’ Another legend states that Hippasus was merely exiled for this revelation. Whatever the consequence to Hippasus himself, his discovery posed a very serious problem to Pythagorean mathematics, since it shattered the assumption that number and geometry were inseparable–a foundation of their theory.”

The Pythagoreans were I’m told, OK this was from the Jew Jerome Lettvin, something of a cult. Jews though are masters of cults like psychoanalysis, the blank slate, etc.

Hmmm, Wikipedia claims there’s cause and effect here:

“Because previous numerical foundations were still incompatible with the concept of incommensurability, Greek focus shifted away from those numerical conceptions such as algebra and focused almost exclusively on geometry. In fact, in many cases algebraic conceptions were reformulated into geometric terms. This may account for why we still conceive of x^2 and x^3 as x squared and x cubed instead of x to the second power and x to the third power.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrational_number

Indians were of course the founders of serious algebra, and at some point they too stumbled upon irrational numbers.

If you find this sort of stuff cool and want to learn a fair amount of math in an unconventional way, through the history of its discovery, I highly recommend Foundations and Fundamental Concepts of Mathematics by Howard Eves https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/048669609X/

@xianc78 Your looking for the 'truth' using code ((( BERG)))

Are you jewish
or just another brainwashed self hating white

@charliebrownau Neither. Codeberg is a pun on iceberg. They're a Git repository host. And the only good one that allows static site hosting. GitHub is owned by MS and GitLab is cloudflared.

@xianc78 A berg that isnt choosen parasite

Did you tripple check that shit

Id still just end up self hosting one
rather then relying on 'free' corporation clouds

@charliebrownau I've triple checked it, yes. I'm unable to self-host at the moment because I don't have my own place right now.

It's hosted on a Git repository and it's licensed under the WTFPL so anyone is welcome to pull the whole thing and make mirrors.

@xianc78 Check out RackNerd

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@charliebrownau I do plan on using a VPS but for something else (a single user fedi instance). But thanks anyway.

@xianc78 Also if your looking for a good VPN

Id recommend Mullvad VPN
Allows you to make an anon account
and pay with physical cash