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@ryo
>using Linux no longer feels like running a free and open source alternative to proprietary peasant OS’s, it now feels more like running a freeware version of those proprietary peasant OS’s

No. Even using a shitty distro with SystemD is a 1000x better than using Windows because since at least Windows 8, you are required to register for an MSN account just to set up your computer. Windows 11 took it one step further and requires you to provide a mobile phone number. Windows markets itself as a service. It has forced updates, requires an MSN account like I just mentioned, and integrates itself with OneDrive or whatever they are calling their cloud service these days.

I don't know about macOS but I assume it's the same thing, but with iCloud instead of MSN/Outlook/Hotmail.

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@xianc78
I agree: most of my live I used Windows. Just 4 or 5 years ago I installed Linux and distrohopped from Mint to Manjaro. I had to install Windows for the software I had to use.
So getting back to Windows is the most painful experiense, I've ever had with computers. Fuck Windows, use Bottles or VMs.
@ryo
Btw Linux opened for me a pretty deep rabbit hole of FLOSS and made me not fear using CLI (which is sometimes much more effective, than GUI).
@xianc78 @ryo
@Resident_Evil @xianc78 Depending on what you need WinDOS soyware for, you can as well try to replace them with FOSS alternatives.
Also, saying to not use WinDOS but use it in a VM is like refusing to live in a skyscraper and renting out a room for the purpose of keeping it vacant on the 40th floor
@ryo
I need Windows just for a several pieces of software. I'm afraid using Bottles for some of them, so that's why I also have Windows on my VM.
And this analogy with skyscraper room is not really precise: instead of renting the room of this skyscraper, I just illegally pirate its cable TV, running a cable into my forest cabin powered by solar panels and water turbine placed into nearest stream.
@xianc78
@xianc78 I wouldn't be surprised if the SoystemD distro's would become like that too once systemd-linux replaces the Linux kernel itself.
Though at least the anti-SoystemD (the protest distro's as they call it) are still fine.
The pro-SoystemD ones all seem to go along with the Red Hat (which is owned by IBM) corporate agenda.

@ryo I think the ultimate plan for subverting Linux is to make it near impossible to install it directly on hardware and to force everyone to use Windows Subsystems for Linux. I bet most Linux users buy Windows computers and replace the OS and that's slowly becoming impossible. So you will be stuck either buying niche or used hardware if you want to using anything other than Windows or macOS.

@xianc78 Old hardware are raising in popularity among us FOSS OS users for way more (good) reasons than just that.

@ryo We can't rely on old hardware forever. Hardware eventually deteriorates, including well-built hardware. Eventually, we have to rely on hardware manufacturers like System76, Purism, and Think Penguin.

My biggest fear is that governments might pass laws like the US Infrastructure Bill (which gives the government full remote control of future cars) but for computers, so if that happens, then we have to rely on black market hardware manufacturers.

@xianc78 Or we have to build our own.
The big advantage of computers having been being nerd-only and grassroots is that we actually have the ability to know how to put a PC together by ourselves, though developing each individual hardware part might be more of a challenge, especially anything that's at least on par with anything made in the post IntHell ME era.

@ryo Literally the last thing I did before graduating was going to library and taking a bunch of hardware books (they were giving old books for free). I got a bunch of books on microprocessors. I just need time to sit down and read them.

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