So how bad is the current situation of not being able to self host email? Supposedly, it's becoming harder to self-host because Gmail would blacklist entire IP ranges if a single server from said range is known for spam which supposedly makes it much harder to self host.

But I see a lot of people still self-hosting and saying that they don't have any problem. I like to do nslookups on various small business and organization websites and a lot of them still self-host (or use a VPS) with no problem.

I think that one article exaggerated the situation.

@xianc78 I finally stopped after ten years and migrating my last job's server away from self-hosting since 1996 because it became intolerable.

@Moon @xianc78 i did it for ~10 years and only stopped because i wanted better search, it always worked flawlessly for me out of the box (with mailinabox)

@lain @xianc78 @Moon it's one of the few services i don't recommend selfhosting because deliverability is really hard to guarantee on VPSes, ISPs actively block SMTP ports, and it's that one service you REALLY want to have working out of all other selfhost services

i ended up moving to protonmail for all of my mail with multiple custom domains and i just tag emails based on what domain it came in on - happy medium between security and deliverability for me and if proton fucks up i can swing my MX records somewhere else