With the current state of the country and the trajectory we're on, I think beginning the steps of this within five years may now be the only way to avoid an all-out hot civil war within ten.
@Indigo The EU might as well be the United States of Europe at this point so that doesn't make things any better.
As for oil, there has been a conspiracy theory going around that the idea that oil is a fossil fuel that is only found in certain areas is just a myth created by the Rockefellers and that it's actually more abundant than we think. If that is true and the secessionist governments find that out, it could help.
And how would we know that these secessionists states aren't controlled opposition? Even at the state and even local level, you see governments trying to achieve those same Agenda 2030 Sustainable Development goals.
And I absolutely expect bad actors and controlled opposition to be used before, during, and after the split (the US already implements those things in other nations on the other side of oceans anyway, you better believe they're gonna do it in The Republic of Texas).
I don't know enough about the oil thing to give an informed answer, I was mostly just using that as a commodity that comes from Texas that other places need.
@Indigo
>Maybe the EU was a bad comparison, what I mean is more like an agreement between sovereign nations to follow a set of common rules in terms of diplomacy, trade, travel, immigration, etc., more like a series of treaties than anything else (y'know, what the EU should be *in theory*).
I think alliances only really worked without being governments of their own back in the days of monarchy because back then the kings and queens of different countries were basically like neighboring families. Now, elected (or selected) politicians are basically strangers to foreign nations' politicians and it gives NGOs the opportunity to hijack these countries while manipulating foreign relationships.
I'm fully on board with Hoppe in that monarchies (good monarchies) are superior to democracies. Problem is that I highly doubt that any secessionist state would be a monarchy.
>I don't know enough about the oil thing to give an informed answer, I was mostly just using that as a commodity that comes from Texas that other places need.
The theory is that oil is actually not a fossil fuel, but instead is a byproduct created by certain bacteria, and is actually much more abundant than what it appears to be. The theory goes that the Rockefellers made up the fossil fuel "myth" to make it look more limited resource so they can lobby for legislation and crush competition. It's a conspiracy theory that I want to be true and I want to be exposed because if it is true and it is exposed to the public, it will have a MAJOR effect on the world and in a good way. Production will be RADICALLY decentralized. Power in certain nations will be reduced DRASTICALLY. And of course secession would be possible.
Doesn't mean it isn't worth looking into, everything is on some level, I just need to see a little more supporting evidence.
@Indigo Wikipedia actually has an article about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin#Biotic_(microbial)_hydrocarbons
Nobody wants a, now potentially hostile, nuclear power on their border after all, and I think that's going to be the biggest road block to an actual national divorce.
As for what happens to displaced populations and supporters of the "other side" after the dust settles, I think it would be realistic for some kind of "relocation treaty" to be worked out, similar to after the revolutionary war, where a condition of England's surrender was allowing Tories safe passage to England.
The human rights implications of that are kinda horrific, and it will likely lead to all the different new nations being hyper-nationalistic for the first few generations due to the cultural/ideological homogony that will result from this.
California still needs oil, Texas still wants goods coming through Pacific ports, and Greater Idaho will likely be totally landlocked, so a certain amount of cooperation will be necessary between the different North American Nations, maybe something similar to the EU will be worked out.
As you can see I've given this a... perhaps unhealthy amount of thought...