NGL I wish all distros had a ports system neatly integrated into the package manager. I just want to autistically compile some packages with -march optimizations and keep them up to date using the same package manager as the one for my binary packages.

@tadano arch kinda has this, gentoo does

@mischievoustomato I know Gentoo does but I prefer versioned releases for server OS. Plus it's not as well-supported, the package manager is in fucking Python and when I tried to install I got lost on encrypting my drive. IMO every distro should at least have a script or an option to automatically set up LUKS.

@tadano i dont remember if i encrypted my disk when i installed gentoo in 2021. But I do agree, setting up LUKS should be easy.

> I know Gentoo does but I prefer versioned releases for server OS.

Couldn't you remain safe if you update monthly or weekly? That's what I with arch and beyond upstream devs being retarded, all goes well.

> Plus it's not as well-supported

how so?

> the package manager is in fucking Python

i don't like python, but i've heard tha portage just works well. maybe @prettygood can give some insight

@mischievoustomato @prettygood
>Couldn't you remain safe if you update monthly or weekly? That's what I with arch and beyond upstream devs being retarded, all goes well.
From my own experience (at least with Arch), with a rolling release there's always a degree of uncertainty especially for cutting/bleeding edge. It's not if you'll get shit breaking because libgayniggers.so.6 was not found, it's when. You can't easily predict behaviour. On a desktop I was more lenient towards doing a quick downgrade on occasion, on server I have zero tolerance for that. I need shit to be stable, and above all else that means predictability.

Addendum: I hear Void places a higher emphasis on stability despite being rolling release. Also xbps-src looks like what I want. I know @djsumdog runs Void even on cluster servers so Imma tag him for input.

>how so?
If there is a piece of software for Linux, 99.99% of the time it has a .deb package. Even if it's not in repos I can dpkg -i and have absolute confidence it will run. I can't say the same for Gentoo but I'm not as familiar with it.

>i don't like python, but i've heard tha portage just works well. maybe @prettygood can give some insight
would appreciate it.

@tadano @djsumdog @mischievoustomato @prettygood >rolling release
>for server
>not alpine

you get what you deserve

@sapphire @prettygood @djsumdog @mischievoustomato Really not fond of Alpine and the only reason Schwartzwelt still runs it is legacy. It's consistently behaved weirdly in my experience.

@PurpCat I am once again asking for the picture of the average Alpine dev. :flynncursed:

@tadano @PurpCat @djsumdog @mischievoustomato @prettygood skill issue, I have already depicted my distro as the chad and yours as the soyjak

@sapphire @prettygood @PurpCat @djsumdog @mischievoustomato Drew "White P. Diddy" DeVault loves Alpine. Any chance of Alpine being a chad distro was destroyed from the outset. Meanwhile Debian is a backbone of enterprise Linux deployment. :gigachad:

https://drewdevault.com/2021/05/06/Praise-for-Alpine-Linux.html

@tadano @PurpCat @djsumdog @mischievoustomato @sapphire @prettygood imagine having shrew segfault's opinion having any impact on your life, jesus

@pomstan @PurpCat @djsumdog @mischievoustomato @tadano @sapphire @prettygood Occasionally he makes some good points, such as how so many FOSS projects are using Discord, but most of the time it's just him complaining about how "crypto is evil" or "there are too many right-wingers in the FOSS community".