I've just released The Iona Project v1.0
Iona is a mission to create a boarding school to preserve western civilization from the decline of modernity.
Document can be found here: http://iona.pkt.net/
This link will be updated to a website in the future.
As I've been writing this, I have been sharing a few excerpts. So now I'm tagging everyone who I THINK showed some interest in the idea. Apologies in advance for whatever mistakes I inevitably made.
At the bottom of the document is an email address, email me there if you want to be involved, or just to be put on a list to learn about updates.
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Iona is a mission to create a boarding school to preserve western civilization from the decline of modernity.
Document can be found here: http://iona.pkt.net/
This link will be updated to a website in the future.
As I've been writing this, I have been sharing a few excerpts. So now I'm tagging everyone who I THINK showed some interest in the idea. Apologies in advance for whatever mistakes I inevitably made.
At the bottom of the document is an email address, email me there if you want to be involved, or just to be put on a list to learn about updates.
CC: @Java
@pepsi_man
@sj_zero
@KingOfWhiteAmerica
@andetritus
@DC5FAN
@patris
@RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare
@dcc
@oneBasedBrother
@Bernard
@Revertron
@threalist
@harblinger
@nomebullyyou
@na
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@cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @DC5FAN @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron Have you researched the legal implications of this? I don't know much about the regulation of private education, but I think the male hierarchy might not go well in some places, not to mention the whole transgender issue.
I'm not that worried. Because we're talking about a private invite-only institution, I don't think any of this goes beyond what can be resolved by a good legal structure.
@cjd @xianc78 @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron Yeah, as long as your aren't funded with public funds you can probably get away with a good deal of descretion. The one concept that jumped out was the idea of going into physical labor. I'm thinking the kind of folks who could afford to send their kids to boarding school would consider this a down grade compared to other private schools.
I haven't really done the math, but I *think* the school can be fairly cheap to operate because most of the work is done by the students themselves. If the school is making and selling things, then it might even be profitable.
I don't want to have to pander to the elite. They want to raise a kid who is 1st class on the rowing team but can't change a tire, there are thousands of elite schools that will do that for them.
I don't want to have to pander to the elite. They want to raise a kid who is 1st class on the rowing team but can't change a tire, there are thousands of elite schools that will do that for them.
@cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @xianc78 @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron See I thought you'd need deep pockets. I like the idea but running any type of building large enough for classrooms and dorms will create a lot of overhead.
@DC5FAN @cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @xianc78 @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron That's right. Then there's zoning. That's where you will run into obstacles.
A few years ago, a bankrupt univ in Hew Hampshire sold off for 5mn. It's expensive, but it's not astronomically expensive...
@cjd @patris @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @xianc78 @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron Something like that would be ideal.
@cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @xianc78 @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron It's a fairly egalitarian idea which gives it broader appeal.
@xianc78 @cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron The only thing that jumped out was electing a leader in first grade and being stuck with them the duration of your stay. There has to be some process to reverse that like electing ever year.
In the western tradition it must be violent overthrow to install the current leaders second cousin.
Ok that was an omission. I meant to say that this leader *can* change, because of course you need that.
@cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @xianc78 @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron So am I understanding this correctly? The school and curriculum will be largely run by peers?
Not at first, but after (say) 10 years have graduated such that the alumni vote is sufficient to moderate the current students, then it becomes possible.
@cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @xianc78 @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron So the alumni connect is very important. This could confer advantaged when they enter the broader world.
@xianc78 @cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron Are non whites going to be admitted?
This topic is addressed very carefully in the document:
> it is required that they are enough of a cultural fit that they would achieve long term success as a husband/wife for any of the girls/boys in the school.
Addressing it this way firstly does a lot to mitigate the potentially thorny civil rights law issue. But it also avoids the need to create some kind of formal definition of whiteness - which is also a somewhat contentious issue (if you ask Amerika, White = WASP only).
> it is required that they are enough of a cultural fit that they would achieve long term success as a husband/wife for any of the girls/boys in the school.
Addressing it this way firstly does a lot to mitigate the potentially thorny civil rights law issue. But it also avoids the need to create some kind of formal definition of whiteness - which is also a somewhat contentious issue (if you ask Amerika, White = WASP only).
@cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @xianc78 @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron So the vetting process would select out undesirables.
@cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @DC5FAN @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron
Also
>Electronic devices are strictly controlled, with portable devices like phones and laptops
forbidden on campus. Software development and internet usage is taught, but the use of
the internet for leisure is forbidden.
You need to explain how to control student's Internet usage. My suggestion would be to have all computers run a custom GNU+Linux distro or Gentoo installation with a heavily locked-down DE and a whitelist of websites. It would be harder and pointless to crack security if the OS doesn't offer much in the first place.
Before doing anything, we're going to have to write a number of memoranda and assemble them into a unified "book" kind of like the way Project2025 was written.
This will need to be addressed in more detail, but my instinct is: Desktop computers only, and they are in a public location where other people can see your screen.
Using a linux distro just makes rational sense.
This will need to be addressed in more detail, but my instinct is: Desktop computers only, and they are in a public location where other people can see your screen.
Using a linux distro just makes rational sense.
@cjd @xianc78 @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron I think you could run it via remote learning initially. A lot of folks are already doing home schooling, so this could connect them to a larger Nexus of like-minded peers. You could then use the small amount of fees to acquire brick and mortar. I think you physically bring the kids in around 5th-6th grade when they could handle being outside of the family unit.
@cjd @xianc78 @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron Imagine getting only the best and brightest and then giving them a steady diet of true learning for 8 years. They'd be gods when they came out.
Possibly a way to bootstrap, but I think the physical location will prove necessary to form the social bonds.
@cjd @xianc78 @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron Ultimately the curriculum is where the value is. That could easily be shared and monetized through current homeschooling networks. Getting into these schools would be the ultimate goal. If you are of the best calibre you get to attend a brick and mortar so the selection process is driven before they even set foot in the building.
> Ultimately the curriculum is where the value is
Remember, the Amish have a very basic curriculum and really the only things they really excel at are building bonds with each other and developing self-discipline.
Remember, the Amish have a very basic curriculum and really the only things they really excel at are building bonds with each other and developing self-discipline.
@cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @xianc78 @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron You'd need educators but how do you keep the commies out. They are all basically commies.
Well, if they read that document and don't vomit, that's a pretty good sign they're not commies 😏
But then I think the place to look is toward interested parents, some rogue school teachers (I had a few like that), and some retirees who would like to give back to the community.
After 20 years, we can just hire our own graduates.
But then I think the place to look is toward interested parents, some rogue school teachers (I had a few like that), and some retirees who would like to give back to the community.
After 20 years, we can just hire our own graduates.
@cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @xianc78 @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron I like the self perpetuating nature of it. You think big.
Send an email if you want to be kept up to date on revisions / publications and/or contribute to some of the documents that are still to be written.
@cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @xianc78 @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron The problem is the Amish are an established community. There isn't really a comparable group to draw these students from. I agree that simplicity is a virtue but you also have to get parents from different backgrounds to buy in. Homeschooling is a lot of work. Those people have already rejected the easy path because they want better for their children.
I'm only using the Amish to illustrate what value comes from group cohesion and discipline.
Taking a kid in at 8 and keeping them until 18 it is very possible to build strong cohesion and discipline both.
I don't see any reason why after 25 years there wouldn't be an entire community of alumni around the area where the school is built, who would be at least half as cohesive as the Amish, and without such self-imposed restrictions on labor-saving technology.
I agree homeschool parents are a great resource.
Taking a kid in at 8 and keeping them until 18 it is very possible to build strong cohesion and discipline both.
I don't see any reason why after 25 years there wouldn't be an entire community of alumni around the area where the school is built, who would be at least half as cohesive as the Amish, and without such self-imposed restrictions on labor-saving technology.
I agree homeschool parents are a great resource.
@cjd @xianc78 @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron I think you start with a curriculum and people will buy in based on that to the larger vision. That seems to have the lowest cost of entry, that funds the rest of the endeavor.
Curriculum is important, no doubt. But I want people to understand how incredibly valuable it is to be part of a cohesive group and to develop self-discipline.
@cjd @dcc @andetritus @Java @Bernard @xianc78 @nomebullyyou @na @RichardKuklinskisIcyGlare @KingOfWhiteAmerica @patris @pepsi_man @sj_zero @threalist @harblinger @oneBasedBrother @Revertron That's what makes what you are doing different.
