@mario If I participated I would be ashamed (this doesn't mean I wouldn't participate just that I would be very ashamed if I did)
@bitterblossom @mario I wish Lecter would like me but he's such a pretentious faggot who is super ceral all the fucking time, can't even say nigger or retard or "damn kids are stupid" around that guy.
@mario @bitterblossom He runs a little cult of personality regarding mapness, and they gatekeep the fuck out of their gay little clubhouse. They say I'm fake and shit or a troll or something just because I'm a free speech absolutist and I don't respect their touchy feely sensibilities because I'm not so retarded that I can be tricked by lovebombing or naming and shaming.
@mario @bitterblossom Agree to disagree if you're saying maps are sick and need correction, no sicker than any other paraphiles at least, and perhaps even less, as studies show it is normal (NOT abnormal) to find girls as young as 9 sexually arousing. What is NOT normal and is NOT common is finding girls much younger than that to be arousing, that is unusual, behaviorally speaking. Society has to accept what is normal, before it can offer help to those who are abnormal and want the help, grouping all maps into the "banish" category will leave you with an endless war against mostly innocent people, since (statistically) every normal human man is a "map".
@mario @bitterblossom The point here I think is that it's not ethical to bar them from legal contracts, just like it was not ethical to bar certain races from entering into contracts or certain genders. If a person has a brain condition that makes them incapable of decision making that is not a factor of their age and so age should not be taken into account. If a person has their wits, they have their wits, I've seen kids you'd swear had a little old man inside their head driving them around, and I've seen adults who you'd swear were being operated by a clinically retarded toddler. Age is not the factor here.
@mario @bitterblossom I believe you are glancing around too quickly and you are not noticing the hole in your argument, or you do not care, but it is this; by arbitrarily restricting an entire class of people, based on the assumption that many in this class are not wise enough to be unrestricted, you will inevitably restrict those who happen to be in this class, but also happen to be different from their fellows in that they are wise enough to take care of themselves. Is not this binding of an unwilling and consciousness entity a form of rape, a form of slavery, a form of torture, a form of dehumanization, and this dehumanization is inescapable, forever, the victim will know they were less then human, their rage will grow, until...problems.
Agism is bigotry. It just is. There's no getting around that. It's either ok to be a bigot or it's not. We're either individuals or we're numbers. And in this society, we are numbers, and I hope that changes one day.
@mario @bitterblossom Well I just made the age of consent 99 years old, happy now? It's arbitrary. You seriously don't see the problem with that, this is what I don't get, you seem rather logical and sharp yet you refuse to admit that your logic is faulty and revert to anecdote and "common sense talk" and shit, I just don't get you.
That's true. But 18 sounds reasonable enough for me.