@massiveracist@neckbeard.xyz @Nonetrix
I know how hard the linux is for average user, It's too hard for me aswell.

But the worst parts of linux fit into 3 categories:
APP Stores
User elevation
Fyle system not having a standard disk:\folders structure.

And while most people do understand problems in 2nd and 3rd example, The app stores make linux look like a closed up toys. I know this is about perception, but I hope you get my point.

@LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club @massiveracist@neckbeard.xyz

appstores

Why is this a bad thing it's such a good idea windows tried to copy it and failed

user evaluation

How hard is it to type your password or sudo

file system blah blah

It makes sense everything is a file just because it's different doesn't mean it's bad it's just that your not used to it I find it very nice compared to windows where if you run out of drive letters you can't add more drives

@Nonetrix @massiveracist@neckbeard.xyz
You are blind to the complexity of the problem.

The user elevation is not about typing sudo su, but about making sure every aplication has the rights aswell. And that is both core of Linux security as well as it's total unusability.

Same thing goes for the file system. It's not about the name, it's that when you see many different folders in root folder, it hides the true location of the files when taken to hardware level.

In windows, you choose a disk, on it are a few files from OS, but the rest is users playgroung. The opposite is true for linux user, since he has to learn, where to even find his drives...

@LukeAlmighty @Nonetrix @massiveracist I think all of this is founded on a false premise that it is somehow good to cater to users unwilling or incapable of understanding fundamental aspects of a system. It's like changing a country's culture because it alienates "the global community" and all the immigrants which shouldn't be there in the first place. You change that culture and it'll go to shit. You pretend that culture is just silly tradition and it goes to shit. It's happened time and again.
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@Tim @massiveracist@neckbeard.xyz @Nonetrix
This is a problem. you obviously can set elitism level as high as you want. If you want to make a club for 10 smartest people in the world, you can use the same argument to kick out the 11th.

That does not change any of my points. Linux is not just unintuitive. It is so damn overcomplicated, that even some IT enthusiasts cannot stand it. I wrote my 3 main points, and although the installation process is the easiest one to solve, the remaining two are just so far, I will rather stay under NSA OS, then do the shit-long research needed to work with this thing. And I want to work with it...

@Tim @massiveracist@neckbeard.xyz @Nonetrix
And yes, I know I'm just too dumb for Linux. That doesn't mean I cannot try/complain :AsukaSmug:

@LukeAlmighty @massiveracist @Nonetrix

It really ain't elite. Nowdays it's concerningly not elite, in fact. It's mostly just different. It's like calling christianity or anglo culture elite because its capable of sustaining a society instead of a mess. Not that the linux sphere doesn't have its own messes, though mostly for failing to uphold its principles (cough cough soystemd).

At the same time, I would wish away all computers in an instant if I could. They have in fact been a disaster for the human race.
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