@ChristiJunior @MeBigbrain I think it's only a matter of time at this point. Unless Sony innovates, which isn't their forte, they're clearly out. They banked all in on AAA with the PS5, they told us so themselves, and Microsoft bought them lmao
They lost Japan, they lost to Nintendo and they lost AAA to Microsoft
They lost Japan, they lost to Nintendo and they lost AAA to Microsoft
@coolboymew @ChristiJunior If you think about it, the two giants ready to collapse (Microsoft and Sony) are just two companies losing their natural markets: Sony losing Japan and Microsoft losing PC gaming.
@MeBigbrain @ChristiJunior @coolboymew
> Microsoft losing PC gaming
Riot just joined their PC game pass thing
> Microsoft losing PC gaming
Riot just joined their PC game pass thing
@cyberspook @ChristiJunior @orekix that's hilarious is that Steam is actually succeeding slowly in fucking over Microsoft by attempting to make Windows useless, because Gabe most likely saw the writing on the wall of a very walled garden future, and Valve/Steam might very well save us from it
@coolboymew @cyberspook @ChristiJunior @orekix there is no possible way a majority of pc gamers or normalfags in general will ever install linux over windows. it wont even get to 10% of steam users
@why @ChristiJunior @coolboymew @orekix @cyberspook
There is no way, majority of normalfags will leave windows NOW.
But I was hesitant for years about leaving Windows, and Valve had finally broken the first of major Linux retardations.
@LukeAlmighty "had finally broken the first of major Linux retardations."
Can you please describe what this means?
The only new thing valve has done is improved proton (WINE+DVXK+VSYNC) and maybe updated their terrible proprietary 32bit steam program (not too much of course) and have probably contributed nothing to the kernel, Linux.
I'm not all that impressed that you can run more proprietary malware on an OS, when the whole point of the GNU/Linux OS was for users to have freedom.
Can you please describe what this means?
The only new thing valve has done is improved proton (WINE+DVXK+VSYNC) and maybe updated their terrible proprietary 32bit steam program (not too much of course) and have probably contributed nothing to the kernel, Linux.
I'm not all that impressed that you can run more proprietary malware on an OS, when the whole point of the GNU/Linux OS was for users to have freedom.
@Suiseiseki
No, I won't go into details.
Explaining intuitive design to linux users is like explaining the divorce rape to a feminist.
Even if I managed to name all of the issues, you would just end up saying "but that's a good thing".
@LukeAlmighty I do not consider myself a Linux user, I am a GNU user.
I really would prefer GNU Hurd as my kernel anyway.
As a kernel doesn't actually have any sort of visual interface, I don't see how one would apply a "intuitive design" to it.
If you're complaining about the /sys and /proc interfaces, fair enough, but I haven't had too much using them.
Most complaints I've come across don't seem to actually have much to do with Linux, rather how the DE/package manager/other software acts.
Normies seem to absolutely thirst for proprietary software, but over here on GNU/Linux-libre we only have freedom - and that's a good thing.
I really would prefer GNU Hurd as my kernel anyway.
As a kernel doesn't actually have any sort of visual interface, I don't see how one would apply a "intuitive design" to it.
If you're complaining about the /sys and /proc interfaces, fair enough, but I haven't had too much using them.
Most complaints I've come across don't seem to actually have much to do with Linux, rather how the DE/package manager/other software acts.
Normies seem to absolutely thirst for proprietary software, but over here on GNU/Linux-libre we only have freedom - and that's a good thing.
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Now, immagine, that I have an IQ of 90 and I don't have time for some software wars:
> I do not consider myself a Linux user, I am a GNU user.
You lost me right there, because I don't know how to download and install GNU OS.
> As a kernel
Kernel is not a word, that should be used when discussing how to spend your free time.
> package manager/other software acts.
YES!!! I had many rants on this already, so good to know that you know :D
The problem is, that normies cannot even care about freedom to pragram their own OS, when they need a relative to make sure their keyboard is connected.
@fugger Yes, the GNU OS is just a very long troll started in 1984 that continues to this day.
I don't crave attention, I just crave informing people about what really started the OS, so people stop incorrectly naming the whole OS after the kernel
I don't crave attention, I just crave informing people about what really started the OS, so people stop incorrectly naming the whole OS after the kernel
@Suiseiseki why is that all you post about though? like do something else for once
@Suiseiseki LITERALLY all you post about that type of dedication is just weird
@fugger If you look back, you see that I sometimes post about best doll.
@Suiseiseki literally who
@fugger 私は翠星石です
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@Suiseiseki yes that's the only two things you post about... That's strange, that's not normal... Perhaps get help... Mentally
@fugger @Suiseiseki nagatoro slender legs and cute feet 😭
@fugger @Suiseiseki @LukeAlmighty don't listen to this guy, the desu guy is a based GNU respector and child diddler(basically the same thing let's be real)
@LukeAlmighty >immagine, that I have an IQ of 90 and I don't have time for some software wars:
Even if you have a IQ of 50, you are still capable of learning, as long as you are willing to learn.
I've encountered a lot of people who obviously had good intelligence, but refuse to learn.
>You lost me right there, because I don't know how to download and install GNU OS.
Pretty much any so called "Linux distro" is actually a GNU/Linux OS (which you may want to shorten to just GNU), although some use BusyBox instead, which makes it BusyBox/Linux instead
The list of GNU recommended GNU/Linux distros is here: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
For something easy to install, I would recommend the cleaned up version of Ubuntu: https://trisquel.info/
Installing it is as simple as burning the livedvd to a DVD, or copying the livedvd to a flash drive (this clicky clicky GUI software will do it for you: https://unetbootin.github.io/), booting off such storage medium and clicking through the install instructions.
>that normies cannot even care about freedom to pragram their own OS
Freedom to program the OS is not what I'm focused on, I'm focused on freedom for the users: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html
Even so, those who want to program the OS are able to, unlike on nonfree software.
>when they need a relative to make sure their keyboard is connected.
This really should be only something you need to explain and demonstrate once - if someone is willing to learn, they will quickly grasp the concept of input devices.
Even if you have a IQ of 50, you are still capable of learning, as long as you are willing to learn.
I've encountered a lot of people who obviously had good intelligence, but refuse to learn.
>You lost me right there, because I don't know how to download and install GNU OS.
Pretty much any so called "Linux distro" is actually a GNU/Linux OS (which you may want to shorten to just GNU), although some use BusyBox instead, which makes it BusyBox/Linux instead
The list of GNU recommended GNU/Linux distros is here: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
For something easy to install, I would recommend the cleaned up version of Ubuntu: https://trisquel.info/
Installing it is as simple as burning the livedvd to a DVD, or copying the livedvd to a flash drive (this clicky clicky GUI software will do it for you: https://unetbootin.github.io/), booting off such storage medium and clicking through the install instructions.
>that normies cannot even care about freedom to pragram their own OS
Freedom to program the OS is not what I'm focused on, I'm focused on freedom for the users: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html
Even so, those who want to program the OS are able to, unlike on nonfree software.
>when they need a relative to make sure their keyboard is connected.
This really should be only something you need to explain and demonstrate once - if someone is willing to learn, they will quickly grasp the concept of input devices.
@Suiseiseki
Thanks for going into serious detail, but I am not your average normie. You don't have to teach me how to use a bootable drive.
But saying "everyone can learn if they want to" is the same as saying, everyone can be fit.
It just doesn't work like that. Will is a realy rare resource.
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@LukeAlmighty @Suiseiseki the thing with muh freedom is that a lot of people dont know to code and dont care about knowing to code, rendering 1 of the freedoms useless to them
@MischievousTomato Damn you're excellent at missing the point.
Just because an individual user doesn't know how to program doesn't mean the ability to do so is pointless.
If individual users have freedom 1, they can pay or ask a programmer to do it for them, even if they can't do it themselves.
Also, even if a user can't program now, they may be able to do so in the future - therefore none of the 4 essential freedoms are every useless.
>the entire free software community cant manage to make a kernel that doesn't shit itself the moment you start copying a lot of files
I really haven't noticed that problem. Please succulently describe the problem with enough details for me to determine the issue.
That part is really up to the filesystem driver - ext4 does copying excellently, I'm not sure about other filesystems though.
Just because an individual user doesn't know how to program doesn't mean the ability to do so is pointless.
If individual users have freedom 1, they can pay or ask a programmer to do it for them, even if they can't do it themselves.
Also, even if a user can't program now, they may be able to do so in the future - therefore none of the 4 essential freedoms are every useless.
>the entire free software community cant manage to make a kernel that doesn't shit itself the moment you start copying a lot of files
I really haven't noticed that problem. Please succulently describe the problem with enough details for me to determine the issue.
That part is really up to the filesystem driver - ext4 does copying excellently, I'm not sure about other filesystems though.
If not they should look into getting paid for this