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@harblinger @coolboymew
>GNU Jihadists who will dump you over using proprietary software
Sane family = sane software.

@harblinger @coolboymew
"you will learn ze the gimp gui"
"you will use ze trisquel"
"you will install ze gentoo"
"and you"ll be happy"

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@LukeAlmighty @mangeurdenuage @coolboymew @harblinger I know this is a meme, but the idea that there are variances in ability therefore people with low ability should just suffer is incredibly stupid.

@Hyolobrika @LukeAlmighty @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage there's a lot of shoulds that would make an ideal world, nice to think about sometimes

@harblinger @LukeAlmighty @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage How on Earth is that a should that would make an ideal world? Are we communicating effectively?

@Hyolobrika @LukeAlmighty @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage

I guess I’ll go verbose

people with low ability should just suffer is incredibly stupid.

I was pointing out that particular use of should in your sentence. It’s not that they should, it’s just that they do. Idealists like to imagine a different use of should like: “People of high ability should forgo their own pleasure to lift those of low ability out of suffering”

Idealist thoughts like that are nice thoughts, but second order effects can bring about much more total suffering (think about the theory of evolution, if low ability offspring were lifted up and high ability offspring were suppressed, then as a total the species would suffer and become lower ability over time)

Does that communicate more effectively?

@harblinger @LukeAlmighty @coolboymew @mangeurdenuage
> “People of high ability should forgo their own pleasure to lift those of low ability out of suffering”
That's not really what I intended to say.
The meme implied that people with low intelligence shouldn't use computers because computers, OSs and UIs made for them are dumbed down. I'm saying that's a fallacy because high-intelligence people can always use OSs etc that supposedly better cater to their intelligence.

@Hyolobrika @mangeurdenuage @coolboymew @harblinger
I disagree immensely.
The primary way of ensuring stability of OS from user error is limiting a total options available to a user.

And if the option is not present, noone can use it, therefore smart people suffer for the dumb.

@LukeAlmighty @mangeurdenuage @coolboymew @harblinger That doesn't make any sense. There are lots of OSs. Some can be for smart people, others for dumb people.
What have you got against competition?

@Hyolobrika @LukeAlmighty @harblinger @mangeurdenuage The problem is that currently smartphones are 100% making people stupid. New kids in college/out of college does not even understand folder structure due to the Mobile "drop everything in" bucket many of them has

https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z

This issue is being made worse when you consider that iPads are a massive walled garden and Windows and MacOS are very close to actually start attempting this, fucking us all over in the process

@coolboymew @Hyolobrika @LukeAlmighty @harblinger
> New kids in college/out of college does not even understand folder structure due to the Mobile "drop everything in" bucket many of them has

@coolboymew @Hyolobrika @LukeAlmighty @harblinger

@mangeurdenuage @LukeAlmighty @coolboymew @harblinger This person makes a good point.

Conversely, I don’t think one needs deep domain knowledge to be good – a hypothetical good legislator would need only enough wisdom to find good advisors.

@Hyolobrika @LukeAlmighty @harblinger @mangeurdenuage too bad that never happens

@coolboymew @LukeAlmighty @harblinger @mangeurdenuage Is it more or less likely than them knowing the thing themselves though? I'd wager more.