@milk
I believe, that porn is necessary, considering amount of women, who decide to go the way of single mom. Men need a 3rd choice between becoming slave to an immoral being, and going insane.

But I see, why the ammount of horrible arguments in the field make it seem, like porn is source of all evil these days.

@LukeAlmighty @milk Counterpoint, porn is not necessary and was banned for a majority of human history. Also, a lot of porn is made through sex trafficking, coercion via drugs, and other nefarious methods. Remember the PornHub crackdown not too long ago? It was because they were hosting minors getting raped. The pornography of today is so prevalent you can see it by mistake if the search filters didn't catch that site. Also, it looks like scenarios get pumped into the machine. How much incest porn is there? Do you tell yourself that it's actors and not how fucked up that scenario is?

@DuckKingLoow @milk

> Counterpoint, porn is not necessary and was banned for a majority of human history.

Not relevant, I live today, in the age of birth control, high education, affirmative action and divorce laws. History does not apply.

> Also, a lot of porn is made through sex trafficking, coercion via drugs, and other nefarious methods.

Why did you put legal and illegal into a single argument? Almost, as if you didn't believe the validity of the strong argument (trafficking), so you jumped back on provable yet toothless (drugs).

> Remember the PornHub crackdown not too long ago? It was because they were hosting minors getting raped.

So is fucking Facebook. Humans do crime. Not an argument.

> The pornography of today is so prevalent you can see it by mistake if the search filters didn't catch that site.

That is an actual problem. I would suggest to focus on grooming in schools first, but point taken.

> Also, it looks like scenarios get pumped into the machine. How much incest porn is there? Do you tell yourself that it's actors and not how fucked up that scenario is?

I seriously couldn't care less about the degeneracy levels. I have more respect fot guro fan then a single mother simp.

Thanks for the response, but I am trying to think of solutions for the society as it is. To say "but crimes happen" or "but I can imagine an utopia" does not help me improve my life.

@LukeAlmighty @milk So I take it you like rubbing one out due to frustration. How long can you manage? Can you not do it for a day? week? month? you sound like a junkie. Imagine if you had that girlfriend or wife, is she really in the mood all the time? Is she going to be happy you wank to random women?

@DuckKingLoow @milk
I thought you wanted to debate the morality, and now you try shaming?

Bruh, sorry, I don't care.

@LukeAlmighty @milk They are one in the same. If you can say "I don't watch porn to jerk off but I think it is a societal good", please explain. But that is a high hurdle. I don't think it's a societal good. Why are 8 year olds exposed to pornography? Why are elementary schools having sex ed? somethings not right. It's recent. And I can point to a time 20 years ago that it wasn't the case, and that was before porn was so prevalent. Say you don't partake but think it's a good for society.

@DuckKingLoow @milk
Man, I do agree, that the society is going to shit.
And I believe, that there are many factors, that lower the number of marriagable women to tragically low number.

Birth control, Propaganda, Higher education, hiring quotas, social programs, modern divorce laws etc.

I am just saying, that until enough of problems I just mentioned get solved, it is better to keep the porn available, since it will keep men from going insane/ driving them to serve a single mom of 7.

@LukeAlmighty @milk And your point is that weak men are either coomers or cucks? Let them both burn. Cuckoldry is on the rise, and that is with porn at the touch of a button. I think there are even genres for that. If anything I see it's influence exacerbating the problem.
What if sexual liberty caused all that? Porn is an absolute result of that movement, or no one would think selling photos of their cooch is a solid future looking plan. Maybe they sell it because someone is buying? Maybe not you, but someone is paying for you to get it free. Maybe they think it can work because someone is always buying?
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@DuckKingLoow @milk
> What if sexual liberty caused all that?

That is literally what I just wrote.

Sorry, but you read in my posts some shit I ain't arguing, and then, you even repeat my meta point. I quit for today. This is pointless.

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