Going to the gym several times a week feels so dehumanizing.
@NEETzsche
Because I am wasting my finite life, going to a place to work on nothing (no bridge being built, no meat brought home) only to change the way I look for a person I haven't even met.
@LukeAlmighty @NEETzsche Your body is that bridge. Do it for yourself
@applejack @NEETzsche
I know you're trolling, but the worst part is, that you don't understand just how destructive that advice is.
I don't have a problem with the way I look. I don't need to look better for myself.
Asshole.
ひげ
@LukeAlmighty @applejack @NEETzsche keep working out because it's healthy and you become a better, more stable version of yourself by not only getting physically stronger, but developing the mindset for building positive habits/routines.
the only one who controls that mindset of feeling "dehumanized" is yourself, and if you TRULY feel like you are not human for going to the gym then why are you still going?
the girls aren't going to like you just for the fact that you have big muscles. it just plays into the rest of your perceived personality. working out builds not only your body but also your character. what they see is a man who has a good lifestyle and is in such a headspace where he can maintain consistency, remaining committed to something that can't be forgotten about.
what you feel about yourself is going to naturally extend to how others perceive you. focus on building up yourself first, and from that will come opportunity. calling people assholes for trying to give you genuine advice makes you look like the idiot in the room, and people will think that no matter how physically strong and toned you become.
it's not about simply looking better. it's about BEING better through time, commitment to the process, and doing it for reasons that aren't vain or a perceived easy ticket.
@LukeAlmighty @applejack @NEETzsche if you wanna just complain about it and be standoffish that's your prerogative, but just realize it isn't going to get you anywhere and that doing something you hate just because you think it will make people like you won't change anything about whether people like you or not. at least, not for the right reasons. it's about the process.
if you were to ask any guy in the gym or on body building forums or whatever they'd give you pretty much the same advice. doing things to get some result that will satisfy someone else is only as good as that person will take it as, but doing something for yourself that will make you stronger and just a better person in general will naturally radiate to others (the right kind of people) and improve your quality of life. if that isn't something you have learned yet in your life, it is something you will learn eventually and now is the perfect opportunity to capitalize on it from listening to people who have already experienced it before you end up getting burned.
this is one of the best lessons i ever learned. doing things that will build myself up instead of chasing the acceptance of others is much more fulfilling and improves the quality of relationships while stripping away the fat of vapid ones that only exist on the basis that i am to their liking at all times. that's arbitrary and keeps you from growing.
@beardalaxy @applejack @NEETzsche
No, I wanted to share my thoughts on an unpleasant experience, and I received bunch of idiots repeating the exact reason, why I used to think, that every single fit person on planet is a total asshole.
@LukeAlmighty @applejack @NEETzsche it's not like we're trying to give you advice because we think we're better than you or we're trying to flex on you or anything, at least for me i actually want to see you succeed and be a better you. i wish that for everyone.
@beardalaxy @applejack @NEETzsche
You personally do, but then, there are posts like this:
https://leafposter.club/objects/2e30045d-b1c5-4ef6-a9f5-cf246be0d8bf
So excuse me, that I got a bit on the edge, when I hear on repeat the same retarded line I have outright said means nothing to me in this exact context. I don't need to look like Henry Cavill to sit in front of PC for 12h a day. And the fact, that I focused on studying does not mean I have no "positive habits".
And I got to hear all of that shit, while I was on my way to the fucking gym. All because you guys cannot fathom, that I don't plan on looking at a mirror 20 minutes every morning to pleasure myself or something.
@LukeAlmighty
You heard this because you complained about even the idea of going to gym
@beardalaxy @NEETzsche
@LukeAlmighty
you said gym was just about looking good on a public forum
people reply and say its good for you
you get kinda unreasonably bitter over it. calm down a bit
@beardalaxy @NEETzsche
@Kagekokoro @applejack @beardalaxy @NEETzsche
Well, while you wrote 5 responses, none of them were so toxic as the average response to that post.
Also, I wouldn't like to call you that based on a single topic anyway.
I can just vouch for the benefits fitness/gym has given me, but to each their own, and I just happen to like working out, gets my head off work, its like meditation in a way
@LukeAlmighty @applejack @NEETzsche i don't know how you hear someone say "do things to better yourself, not to please other people" and think that they are an asshole. it's standard life advice you will find everywhere, not just from fit people. if your reason for doing something is to make people like you, then you're are doing it for the wrong reason. do it for yourself, and the quality people will like you because of that. do it for other people, and the vain ones will like you right up until you no longer do that anymore, or there is something else they want you to do that you won't.
i'll remember this conversation and never give you advice again if this is how you're gonna' act about it.