@LukeAlmighty @charliebrownau And second: birth rates of immigrant families plateau and become the similar to the local european birth rate once they get here.

So yeah more socialism and people need to fuck more

@moffintosh @charliebrownau
Also, women's education had been seen across the entire world to be the primary cause of falling birth rates.

Would you be willing to take women's right for education away to restore birth rates?

@moffintosh @charliebrownau
Btw, I am serous.
Working women have no time for family. It's kinda tragic, but taking care of a kid takes time. And a full time job is just not a compatible goal.

@LukeAlmighty @moffintosh Its a lot

Giving women 'rights'
Educating women
Women careers

No fault divorce
Vagamony
Child support
Divorce settlement
The pill
Abortion
Fakeup
bras
Pussy pass

Look at every group that ACTUALLY has patoracy
- Amish
- Islam
- Regious Jews
They have a birth rate above replacement

@charliebrownau @LukeAlmighty Nonsense https://www.tititudorancea.com/lib/energy/104_34.png

@LukeAlmighty @charliebrownau

Also, women's education had been seen across the entire world to be the primary cause of falling birth rates.

Coincidence is not a casue

Would you be willing to take women's right for education away to restore birth rates?

Because it doesn't work. The Duce tried that and the birth rate barely budged.
A high birthrate is driven by either
1) children being a direct investiment to get labour-power to produce for the family
2) The prespective of a brighter future ahead. Today raising a kid is expensive, society is fragmented and the future filled with debts and bleakness, so people don't bother.

@moffintosh @charliebrownau
> Raining kid is expensive
Cope

I see gypsies raise 10 kids on my tax money alone, so I call bullshit.

@LukeAlmighty @charliebrownau

1) children being a direct investiment to get labour-power to produce for the family

@moffintosh @charliebrownau
Ok...
So, you're ready to get rid of the retarded anti-child labor laws?

@LukeAlmighty @charliebrownau No because capitalists will turn children into grinded meat.
We abolish capital instead so we can pivot on 2

2) The prespective of a brighter future ahead. Today raising a kid is expensive, society is fragmented and the future filled with debts and bleakness, so people don't bother.

@moffintosh @charliebrownau

OK
One day, you will get it...

@LukeAlmighty @charliebrownau Yeah https://www.tititudorancea.com/lib/energy/104_34.png

@moffintosh @charliebrownau
Kids are not an investment. They are a life choice. A choice, that is too time-expensive for working women.

Yeah, allowing kids to work would help slightly, but not as long as women want their career.

But thanks. It was interesting to see your opinion.

@moffintosh @LukeAlmighty @charliebrownau Was going to ask about inverse relationship between rich populations and birthrate, but it seems like you are right per capita:
ifstudies.org/blog/how-income-affects-fertility

However, there still is the issue where richer Western and Western-influenced (Japan, Korea, China) countries do experience abysmal fertility rates compared to less rich Latin, African, and Eastern countries. I have to indirectly agree with LukeAlmighty in the sense that the West instilling a certain anti-natal and natal-resistant ideology through means like education kills fertility.
Any striving for absolute sexual equality, rather than for a complementarian or patriarchal approaches, kills fertility quickly, even when governments provide for family benefits compared to Western countries that do not:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4387654/
npg.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/ControllingPopulationInAStrongEconomy-IsFeminismTheAnswer-FP2019.pdf
ifstudies.org/blog/feminism-as-the-new-natalism-can-progressive-policies-halt-falling-fertility

And you cannot fake traditionalism either, compare self-professing conservative Protestants to those that actually act consistently with the commands of Scriptures ("Biblical literalism" and active church participation) and thus the Bible's patriarchal worldviews:
sci-hubtw.hkvisa.net/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2018.12.013
Note that Perry and Scleifer, page 9, admit that another study has better definition of "conservative Protestant" compared to others and their own for this reason.
Also note that Perry and Scleifer do not discuss the rise of feminist and feminism-improving (anything that aids the increase of feminism but are not by themselves essential to feminist) beliefs and actions within American conservative Protestant circles. They only mention a shallow "mingling of Evangelicals with mainstream culture", which is not an acceptable analysis in any setting.
Also note that a recent study showed that many so-called or self-professing conservative Protestants do not even posses consistent beliefs with the definition of "conservative Protestants" absolving them the right to be called such. This study was conducting after Perry's and Scleifer's, so they would not have benefited form this.
thestateoftheology.com/

Women control sex and therefore fertility at the lower end. Women are convinced they don't need men and expect men to value their careers or being independent, etc. This, in conjunction with the contraceptive pill and contraception in general are increasing the effect. Therefore the bottom has fallen off the birth rates in the west.

Now for the top end, it's not only women but also men not choosing families and children. So where we would expect men to be a standard "sow your oats" factor, they're not. Families deciding whether to have another child decide against it because couples are not financially independent until late in life, especially in the US where student debt is basically 10 years of slavery minimum. Then you hit the wall, where women will not marry young because they want to live like men, until their fertility bell rings and then men don't choose them. MGTOW is gaining traction and incels, however we make fun of them, are a serious demographic because of the blatant sexism in western society: equal rights for all, except not men, where their role is a confused mix of past "patriarchy" and modern "equity". Where women have only gained privileges and access to occupations and resources the last 20 years, men have only lost.

Finally, the gender theory cancer has sat on top of all this and is giving misguided young people an "out": women who feel that being a woman is unfair, decide they're men. And men who can't locate their role in society decide they're women, because all men desire women.

How conservative anyone is, does not change much of the above, although it's an interesting thought exercise. Nor does giving people incentives to have children. It's not about people being busy with other things and putting off having children. It's about actual barriers driving down natality and making children, effectively, infeasible, even for rich people. Rich men and women, though privileged, are still facing most of the same barriers as their poorer counterparts. It's just that the poor usually are also uneducated and therefore have children that they cannot support.

Soon, children will be like clean potable water: expensive, exclusive and used to manipulate large social groups.

@SuperSnekFriend @LukeAlmighty @charliebrownau

Any striving for absolute sexual equality, rather than for a complementarian or patriarchal approaches, kills fertility quickly, even when governments provide for family benefits compared to Western countries that do not

https://www.tititudorancea.com/lib/energy/104_34.png

@moffintosh @LukeAlmighty Less or No Government
Less or No Tax
Less or no Laws

Government is always the problem
Never the solution

@charliebrownau @LukeAlmighty Cope https://www.tititudorancea.com/lib/energy/104_34.png

@moffintosh @charliebrownau
Yeah... in that case, I get why you don't see importing rape gangs as a problem.

@moffintosh @LukeAlmighty Look who is behind

Feminism
Pedo story hour
International Corporations
Central Banking Cartel
Multi racialism
Liberalism
Commie
Marxism
Open Borders
Eco Greens
Veganism
Petrol ((( fossil fuels)))

Clearly you havent researched shit, your a commie talking point

Look at
Blackrock
Vanguard
WEF, Great Reset, Plandemic
Who is behind JAB companies

The truth exists for those willing to rearch off mainstream

Go check out Bitchute , Rumble, Odysee, SearX Search engine
away from Jewogle and Duckduckjew search engines

@charliebrownau @LukeAlmighty I looked and found your sources are steaming bullshit