@moffintosh
You forgot about government contracts...
@LukeAlmighty Irrelevant, that's just the client
@moffintosh
Client buys services for his money.
Politicians buy services for your money.
This shouldn't be a hard concept even for a commie.
@moffintosh
There is no free market. Especially for people who print money.
You cannot buy someone with a money printer. That shouldn't be a hard concept.
Do you remember all the "my dad is bigger then yours" arguments on playground? Well, this is the same case. The politicians can go "my bank account is bigger then yours", and they WILL BE CORRECT.
@moffintosh
> You seem to willingly confuse the public admin's budget with the personal account of elected politicians. Your " They can say my bank account is bigger then yours" falls apart just by checking who are the richest people on the planet: all of them are bourgeois entrepreneurs, who casually invest a lot in lobbying.
YES!!!!!!!!
YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
Politicians cannot give themselves the money directly. So, they GIVE MONEY to the people who give money to them back.
EXACTLY AS MY PREVIOUS EXAMPLE.
https://gameliberty.club/@LukeAlmighty/111184980252645343
@moffintosh
I didn't include the part of "My brother who just earned 200 in profit giving me 100 of your dollars back" because I thought it was obvious.
But at least we agree now on the exact mechanism this exploitation happens :D
@LukeAlmighty
And yet the richest are still the bourgeois. If that's their evilz plan to get rich, they got scammed🤣️
@moffintosh
Are you seriously saying, that politicians are poor?
@moffintosh
Ok, I quit for today.
You just went full retard.
@LukeAlmighty
Reading comprehension moment
@LukeAlmighty Did you just dox yourself in that preview image?
@moffintosh
Your point right now is, that .0001 percent of richest people with total control of law are scammes, because .000001 percent who also have to bend to their wishes....exist.
Your stupidity knows no bounds.
@LukeAlmighty
\> Reading comprehension strikes again
@moffintosh
If you're willing to ignore the fact, that these rich people are rich, because of government contracts that are predicated on a condition, that the recipient sends the money back, then we cannot talk.
Your analysis literally ends with "big number guy bad".
@LukeAlmighty
> If you're willing to ignore the fact, that these rich people are rich, because of government contracts
They aren't. Capital attracts capital, as having a larger starting capital enables to perform larger investiments and obtain larger returns than those who have less money. The goverment is but another client in this regard, and like all other consumers, it can be compelled to spend money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_accumulation
> that are predicated on a condition, that the recipient sends the money back
You state that, but the fact that that the money flows mostly from the bourgeois to politics, with the bourgeois holding the largest amount of money, says otherwise.
@moffintosh
Why do you keep separating the two groups?
Andrej Babiš
Our biggest politician superstar.
Property: 75 billion czk
Owns companies AGABSY, a.s. and Nadace AGROFERT.
And while he was Prime minister, he did send money to his own company.
It wasn't his money that allowed him to send nations money to himself, it was his position as politician.
Sorry jako.
@LukeAlmighty You yourself talked as if they were different subjects in the thread, and while there is overlap, most of the bourgeois aren't politicians
@moffintosh
No, but all politicians are bourgeois with extra power, who go to the bourgeois clubs.
@LukeAlmighty I'm saying that the power flows from capital, and malding about taxes while ignoring the bourgies is laughable
@LukeAlmighty
> There is no free market. Especially for people who print money.
> You cannot buy someone with a money printer. That shouldn't be a hard concept.
Nonsense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_pulite
https://www.statista.com/statistics/257368/total-lobbying-expenses-in-the-us-by-sector/
> Do you remember all the "my dad is bigger then yours" arguments on playground? Well, this is the same case. The politicians can go "my bank account is bigger then yours", and they WILL BE CORRECT.
You seem to willingly confuse the public admin's budget with the personal account of elected politicians. Your " They can say my bank account is bigger then yours" falls apart just by checking who are the richest people on the planet: all of them are bourgeois entrepreneurs, who casually invest a lot in lobbying.
This establishes the rich bourgeois as the ones holding power, while the state is on the downstream side of this relationship.