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Is the new trend of "pay to play early" a bad thing?

Why?

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Why do I even bother making polls, when I obviously lack the intelligence to phrase them properly.

@LukeAlmighty First off, if its ready to be bought and played early, then its just ready to be bought and played, its ready to release. If you do it as a test to see how it will do before release, then it seems wrong to charge for it, as at this point theres a strong chance they dont get to ENJOY it with all the issues, and will lead people to believe the buggy mess is pretty much the final product since youre paying
"Pay us to beta test our game :) do labor for us and pay us to do it :)" kill modern devs

@Saber
@ItsSkyDragonz
@ChristiJunior
Weird. I see it as a GREAT thing.

Since it's not a locked beta or a demo, but a full access, it does allow ALL YOUTUBERS to give their honest opinion, instead of just the payed shills.

This move had already saved my money once. And I am sure it will do so again. And not only for me.

On the contrary, I am sure, that in the same way, as we do look at "late review embargo" as a clear sign, that the game is trash, a lack of at least 1 weak early access will soon be seen the same way. As nothing but a way to limit the ability of people to make informed purchuse.

@LukeAlmighty @Saber @ItsSkyDragonz I mean, I consider like 99% of gaming JewTubers no better than regular gaming journalists anyway. The only one I actually somewhat trust is Synthetic Man.

@ChristiJunior @Saber @ItsSkyDragonz
I mean, I guess it would be worthless.... IF WE DIDN'T LIVE IN A SHITHOLE WORLD FULL OF PRE-ORDERS.

But now..... This is actually kinda amazing. Especially for people, who did pre-order a non-early edition, and get a last chance to change their minds.

@ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty @Saber @ItsSkyDragonz Gaming Youtubers who make this type of thing their mode of profit are "influencers." Don't watch influencers, they're just propagandists. :shrug:
This whole open beta crap is going to harm the video industry in the long run as that's the traditional way to enter into the industry and make contacts.

@rher @Saber @LukeAlmighty Issue being, if they have your money before they develop the entire game, they can just cut and run once they get a funding goal that meets their avariciousness.

Luke Almighty is a baby and was not alive to see the Mighty Number 9 fiasco. Only possible explanation for him holding such retarded opinions.

@Saber @LukeAlmighty @rher So funny story about Mighty No. 9, I sat through all the credits (after I stole the game). Just to really see if the meme was real.

So the meme was real by the way.

@Saber @rher @Owl
My question was not about open Beta, but sure. I am baby, since I don't care about Megamen.

@Owl @rher @Saber
Ok... excuse my confusion. I thought it was supposed to be a spiritual successor.

@LukeAlmighty @rher @Saber It is, but calling it Mega Man is a huge slap in the face. Four hours of the game’s length doesn’t even take place playing the game even.

@Owl @rher @Saber
Oh, sorry. I didn't mention that phrase was used in the very next sentence :D

@Owl @rher @Saber
It's 3Am. So, if I still look smart as a cat, I'll take it as a compliment.

Goodnight friend. I'm sorry I was mean to you.
@LukeAlmighty This is one of those "I really don't like it, but I struggle to fully articulate why".

Maybe because it allows a relatively small group of dedicated paypigs to act as hype men for AAA games and push certain Narratives early, before actual gamers get a chance to figure things out for themselves. Maybe I just dislike different tiers of game-ownership being normalized. Or maybe because I associate this shit with Starfield, and that's a really bad look.

Either way, I hate it.

I played Magic: the Gathering for years, which has a baked-in pay-to-win element, and the shit I see them doing to vidya is absolutely egregious. Just stop giving these people your money.

@LukeAlmighty
Devs sell a product they don't even pretend is finished and customers lower their standards and just hope it'll get better in the future (it usually gets worse). It is one of the worst things to happen to the industry, right up there with micro-transactions and patches.

@LukeAlmighty it's bad for the people who buy it but good for the people who don't because they end up getting a better game

@LukeAlmighty I mean it kind of is early access, just a very short version of it. Every game releases with bugs, so the people who play it on the soft release date are going to have more bugs than the ones who play it on the actual release date. As long as the developer patches it in time, that is. These days, the longer you wait to play a game, the more stable it's going to be (typically).

@beardalaxy
Well, I love early access, but I see it as a deal with the devs, that as long as people pay, the game can be improved to infinity. (Kinda the oposite of what it's supposed to be)

But a pay to access is on such a short time frame, that I cannot see it as anything but a jurno oportunity.

@LukeAlmighty Yes, because for every Factorio there's like 200 "early access" games that never get finished. It's basically Steam horning in on what Kickstarter used to do.
It's a perverse incentive to drip feed small updates into crap games instead of making something that can stand on it's own. I have never played an ealry access game and thought "wow i'm glad this was early access", likewise i've never played a full release game and thought "this would've been so much better if it was sliced up and spread out over several years.

I say this as someone who loves 'library of ruina' which took a few years of early access before it was finished, I played after development was done and it's obvious the early game is gimped in comparsion to later game mechanics.

@LukeAlmighty It was like that all the time. New games are expensive and get cheaper over time. So they're just hype it more.

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