man i swear to god if i had a good mic and a more subtle accent i'd love to just do a one time podcast with christi talking about this whole deal
because it's unironically interesting
sure probably most people are still not as tired as we are but things seem a bit different than what i've heard of the original GG
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because it's unironically interesting
sure probably most people are still not as tired as we are but things seem a bit different than what i've heard of the original GG
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@rlier23 That all seems sensible enough, though I don't necessarily think it explicitly addresses the biggest failings of GamerGate 1. My version of his list would be:
1) Victory at all costs - if the leftists win, video games will not only be completely ruined, but turn into a wretched tool for brainwashing the masses into accepting anti-White, misandrist and pro-pedophilia Evil, doing incalculable damage to society in the process. The lengths to which we are willing to go to destroy our Enemies should reflect that.
2) Our Enemy is Evil, and hurting Evil is Good. Concerns about "SJW Tactics" and "the backlash being excessive/the political pendulum swinging back too far right" are at best unhelpful and premature, and at worst subversive talking points pushed by infiltrators and grifters who want GG to be Controlled Opposition.
3) Opposing "Diversity" and "Inclusivity" is 100% legitimate. If you want to clarify that you *personally* only oppose to the likes of Sweet Baby Inc because their games and writing suck, make sure to not throw the anti-Diversity crowd under the bus in the process.
4) Never countersignal our "far-right extremists"/our shock troops. At worst, they keep the enemy busy and draw away enemy fire, at best they save vidya while you don't even have to get your hands dirty. Also, you will never get any credit for disavowing them, you will only draw attention to their supposed misdeeds while also being blamed for them.
5) While purityfagging is bad, some standards and red lines must be maintained. Games like Elden Ring and Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, while compromised, are still sufficiently worthwhile and relatively light on the poz that Based gamers of good faith can be free to disagree on their merits. People who desperately try to defend the likes of Baldur's Gate 3 or Nu God of Soy on the other hand, have gone Full Consoomer.
A couple of related suggestions - if you just HAVE to play some obviously pozzed game, accept it as a vice and a guilty pleasure, don't try to defend it or attack those criticizing that decision as extremists who hate fun and don't actually play vidya. Meanwhile, you people leaning more towards being "purityfags", recognize that there *is* some nuance and grey areas, as well as things some people can legitimately find more or less objectionable than others. Spending a lot of time attacking other gamers of good faith because they occasionally enjoy a high quality game that's -2 on the Based Morality Scale is not very constructive.
6) Most Centrists are worthless at best, and in any case respond better to something being the consensus/socially acceptable opinion (not really accessible to us) or shows of force/conviction (DEFINITELY accessible to us) than rational arguments or actual compromise/moderation/cuckery. Don't waste time pandering to Centrists.
FINAL NOTE: The immediate goal is hurting our Enemies and helping our Friends. Make sure attempts to pander to SJWs hurt both the gaming companies and the gaming e-celebs doing so, while rewarding those who ignore SJWs and ESPECIALLY those giving them the finger. We'll see where it goes from there, but be sure to take advantage of whatever openings emerge (like the SBI blacklist) to spread the word and recruit more people to our side.
1) Victory at all costs - if the leftists win, video games will not only be completely ruined, but turn into a wretched tool for brainwashing the masses into accepting anti-White, misandrist and pro-pedophilia Evil, doing incalculable damage to society in the process. The lengths to which we are willing to go to destroy our Enemies should reflect that.
2) Our Enemy is Evil, and hurting Evil is Good. Concerns about "SJW Tactics" and "the backlash being excessive/the political pendulum swinging back too far right" are at best unhelpful and premature, and at worst subversive talking points pushed by infiltrators and grifters who want GG to be Controlled Opposition.
3) Opposing "Diversity" and "Inclusivity" is 100% legitimate. If you want to clarify that you *personally* only oppose to the likes of Sweet Baby Inc because their games and writing suck, make sure to not throw the anti-Diversity crowd under the bus in the process.
4) Never countersignal our "far-right extremists"/our shock troops. At worst, they keep the enemy busy and draw away enemy fire, at best they save vidya while you don't even have to get your hands dirty. Also, you will never get any credit for disavowing them, you will only draw attention to their supposed misdeeds while also being blamed for them.
5) While purityfagging is bad, some standards and red lines must be maintained. Games like Elden Ring and Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, while compromised, are still sufficiently worthwhile and relatively light on the poz that Based gamers of good faith can be free to disagree on their merits. People who desperately try to defend the likes of Baldur's Gate 3 or Nu God of Soy on the other hand, have gone Full Consoomer.
A couple of related suggestions - if you just HAVE to play some obviously pozzed game, accept it as a vice and a guilty pleasure, don't try to defend it or attack those criticizing that decision as extremists who hate fun and don't actually play vidya. Meanwhile, you people leaning more towards being "purityfags", recognize that there *is* some nuance and grey areas, as well as things some people can legitimately find more or less objectionable than others. Spending a lot of time attacking other gamers of good faith because they occasionally enjoy a high quality game that's -2 on the Based Morality Scale is not very constructive.
6) Most Centrists are worthless at best, and in any case respond better to something being the consensus/socially acceptable opinion (not really accessible to us) or shows of force/conviction (DEFINITELY accessible to us) than rational arguments or actual compromise/moderation/cuckery. Don't waste time pandering to Centrists.
FINAL NOTE: The immediate goal is hurting our Enemies and helping our Friends. Make sure attempts to pander to SJWs hurt both the gaming companies and the gaming e-celebs doing so, while rewarding those who ignore SJWs and ESPECIALLY those giving them the finger. We'll see where it goes from there, but be sure to take advantage of whatever openings emerge (like the SBI blacklist) to spread the word and recruit more people to our side.
@ChristiJunior @rlier23
Also:
Shut up about five guys!!!
You know what you care about. You care about wokeness and subversion, but if you do NOT care about some people fucking, do not let them drag you into these conversations.
@LukeAlmighty @rlier23 Five Guys is mostly just remembered as a joke nowadays, but to be fair, the reason people cared about it at the time was the fact that it exposed a whole new way in which gaming journos were corrupt, possibly explaining a lot of the outsized coverage that shitty indie non-games made by women have been getting over the years.
@ChristiJunior @rlier23
I am just watching a Short fat otaku convo with 5 people, and so far, they haven't touched anything else.
@LukeAlmighty @rlier23 I'm on the record considering Short Fat Otaku a worthless sack of shit and stopped watching anything by him many years ago, so I'm hardly up to date on his interests.
@ChristiJunior @rlier23
He might be a fence sitter, but he's a well informed one, who also has enough of a brain to always have something worth listening to.
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For instance, recently, I watched his video on skull girls, and I felt like vomiting the entire time.
He does have some mental blocks, but he's one of the most informed people on the culture war out there.
