@phnt
What's so clowny about them?
Yes, they are a target of media ridicule, but so would be any political party, that would go against the narrative.
@phnt
Hard to imagine. Ano pushed the green deal through, and started colplaining about it the verry same day :D (One of two reason, why I consider Babiš man to be unelectable for me).
But when it comes to SPD, I see no issue with complaining about the current state of immigration for instance. Leave EU is the solution, so why do people pretend, like it's not?
@phnt
> Nato
Yes, leaving nato is retarded.
> Food
Did I say we should stop all trading with the rest of the world? EU is not a requirement for trading with the states inside of it. It's the bloat that is the problem, but literally all benefits can be re-built.
> . You never realized how many building reconstructions, road repairs and much more are partially payed from EU funds?
Yes, that is the problem... If EU steals our money, and then gives them back, that crerates an illusion of dependance. But, not only do I HATE socialistic redistribution of wealth, but it cal also be done locally without the need to send the money to the EU fonds first.
@phnt
> The reality that we leech more than give back in total.
And, we cannot use it effectively, so it's pointless. No matter how much money I give you for solar farms, it won't fix car industry.
NATO is basically the same. Leaving an alliance that gives us almost free protection in current world tensions is stupid when our army budget can't even provide clothing for soldiers. Almost everybody in the army buys some of their gear from armyshops, because the army won't give it to you.
One such example is boots. The army has to provide new ones on a yearly basis. The catch? They are destroyed after 3-4 months.
Lastly immigration was a problem 5 years ago, every Ukrainian that came here is here legally thanks to the current government's policies. EU wasn't involved in that and in fact probably pays us due to the sheer number of them. At least there was some talk about that few months ago.
We aren't in the same position as Poland that can go nationalistic in it's views whenever they want, it requires preparation.