In the past, you may have had to choose between someone you agree 50% with and someone you agree 80% with, and so you'd be friends with the 80%. It's your "best available friend."
Now with the Internet, you can choose to befriend the 80% agreeable irl guy, or you can befriend the 99% agreeable guy online. The 20% of disagreements irl feel completely intolerable, because you're not forced to cooperate for survival. This also contributes to strenuous familial relationships.
RT: https://poa.st/objects/a3cbbc29-f6ac-49c0-b525-3c072740149a
A friend is someone who'd rather spend his time with you than anything else. In the past, there really wasn't any other outlet to spend your time. Now, it's a valuable commodity targeted with precision and monetized by companies. By putting a price tag on time, you have millions of dollars spent trying to take it from you, and you can't get that time back.
Who do you think would win, some relatively pleasant person who wants quality time, or the latest million dollar attention grabber? That's why there are no friends beyond coworkers now.
@veff
I am slowly starting to get into a community, but seriously, finding people who are unironically willing to spend time with you feels like tearing your skin off.
@LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club @veff@poa.st
The OP looks like some ordinary, run of the mill "phone bad" bullshit. But broken families and atomized individuals are the exception in other parts of the world, even though social media and wireless are cheap and accessible.
I suspect that the powers that be want us to internalize "phone bad" to the extent that is distracts from other problems, and because uncensored communities are the solution to those problems.
@KuteboiCoder @LukeAlmighty "Phone bad" is a gross caricaturizing of my point, but I'll roll with it. If the Internet were to disappear forever tomorrow, would social life and community become better or worse?
@Dudebro @veff @KuteboiCoder
Exactly the same opinion here.
There was nowhere to go before the modern always-online social setting. Now, I have something to work with, but before? It was a true hell.
@LukeAlmighty @Dudebro @KuteboiCoder I guess my point doesn't work when interacting with 100% true-and-honest autists. My life was significantly better before everyone got smartphones. I had Internet at home, but I specifically avoided getting a phone until... 2017? I didn't want the life of the online to destroy the life of meatspace, but eventually everyone else hooked up to it and there was nothing to be found except online. If that went away, eventually everyone would have to crawl out of their room and be human again. I miss that.
@veff @Dudebro @KuteboiCoder
Each day, I celebrate the death of the world you grieve over. I felt the change only 4 years ago, but the healing process is real, and I can see myself slowly getting to a state I could call happyness for the first time in my life.
Fuck the old world. May it rest in piss
@LukeAlmighty @Dudebro @KuteboiCoder I suspect you're probably a social cretin or have major aspergers if you genuinely think moving all human interaction online was a good thing. You can celebrate the death of "the old world" for your lifetime, but the new world has brought about such a social upheaval that nobody is having kids. In 100 years either some form of equilibrium will be developed, or else a regression back to the old world.
@Dudebro @LukeAlmighty @KuteboiCoder Not disagreeing with that. Who are the predominant users of social media?
@Dudebro @LukeAlmighty @KuteboiCoder If the Internet went down tomorrow, who would be most affected? Women and losers. If you fear the Internet going down you're one of the two.
@veff@poa.st @Dudebro@nicecrew.digital @LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club
Peter Thiel and Elon Musk are faggots and autists, not women and losers.
@KuteboiCoder @Dudebro @LukeAlmighty I would consider faggots and autists to be losers.
@veff @Dudebro @KuteboiCoder
BTW, you seem to be quite upset with autistic people...
Would you mind telling me why? (with the obvious reason of them actually loving the way the world is falling apart.)
@veff@poa.st @LukeAlmighty@gameliberty.club @Dudebro@nicecrew.digital
I'm a bit agnostic as to whether mental illness is actually A Thing or whether it's simply medicalizing defects of character that are a normal part of human existence to varying degrees.
@KuteboiCoder @Dudebro @veff
I believe it's both... I hate to use the old "autism is a spectrum" bullshit, but when it comes to people who literally are too scared to talk? SURE... I don't mind calling that a defect.
But when it comes to 80% of autists, I would guess they are not even defects as much as behaviors, that no longer work in civilized society. Not to mention, that I came to understand, that in the same way, as a ant hives need soldiers, workers and queen, it's just as possible that human societies were designed to have biological specializations that have effects to this day. (the good old ""all IT guys and scientists are autistic"" meme, but unironically)
@veff @Dudebro @KuteboiCoder
Wow... I expected something, but I didn't expect to be called a civilization destructing nigger for having a logic-obsessed brain 
Well, you definitely don't have to apologize for taking long time to reply, but when it comes to the reply itself, go rope yourself.
@LukeAlmighty @Dudebro @KuteboiCoder Don't worry, if you're using that logic-obsessed brain to actually make something of yourself and your surroundings then it doesn't matter.
Autistic people, more prominently in our modern age, are absolutely a drain on time, energy and resources. I have a level 3 autist in my immediate family, so forget about "civilization" as a lofty concept for a moment and think about it on a local level. It's so incredibly exhausting that it takes extended family to jump in and take the role of tard wrangler so the rest of us can catch a break.
All of the traits associated with autism also describe an incredibly self-centered, short tempered, immature, useless person, and I'm tired of playing pretend and acting like that isn't true.
@veff @Dudebro @KuteboiCoder
So, aspergers is offensive and destroys the clarity in describing autism, but level 3 is totally clear and human way of describing people.
At least, now you have actually responded to my original question. If you are in a direct care of a level 3 autist, then I get, why you would talk about aspies like me witch such a disdain.
@veff @Dudebro @KuteboiCoder
My cousin lived for 14 years (if I remember correctly) plugged in on support machines. He never said a word in his life. He never ate a meal, or walked on his legs. And if that wasn't enough, his death was too much for his mother to bear, and she died few months later.
So, obviously, I understand your opinion. Just realize, that when you're talking about autists without that clarification, your audience will include people, who have "problems" with eye contact and a weird voice patterns.
@LukeAlmighty @Dudebro @KuteboiCoder The distinction should already be established by neuroscientists, but everyone in positions of scientific authority are niggercattle. "Autism" is the word that's generally accepted to describe it, so that's what I'm going to do.
I'm passionate about linguistics and communication so I'm not unaware of these problems, but ultimately words and meaning require work from both parties. "Autism," even at low levels, manifests itself through the complete refusal or perhaps inability to put in the effort on the understanding side, again pointing to the general selfish and short tempered tendencies. I write and rewrite my text to be as precise as possible, yet it still isn't enough. The onus eventually is on the listener to put the pieces together and understand intent, but for a supposedly logic-obsessed people they largely seem incapable of this.
@veff @Dudebro @KuteboiCoder
> I write and rewrite my text to be as precise as possible, yet it still isn't enough. The onus eventually is on the listener to put the pieces together and understand intent, but for a supposedly logic-obsessed people they largely seem incapable of this.
Well, excuse me for trying to understand why you consider my existence to be a drain on humanity. I would say, that this kind of a topic would be hard for anyone to "put together"
@veff @Dudebro @KuteboiCoder
And I believe you to be a decently smart person. So, it shouldn't be hard for you to understand, that being hated since my childhood for the most microscopic and pointless differences that do not affect anyone else does make me want the said society to collapse.
I was never given any sympathy from the normie side of the society either. And I seriously didn't need that much.
@philmchawk @Dudebro @veff @KuteboiCoder
I guess. Although, it's his choice to repeat himself.
Normies are weird :D
@LukeAlmighty @Dudebro @KuteboiCoder I was writing a reply but it took too long and deserves it's own thread, so here it is: https://poa.st/objects/62ab7f6d-62be-4d28-80db-0fdbbc7cff63
In short though, autists tend to embrace anti-civilizational tendencies due to having a steeper cliff of improvement to climb. I don't hate autistic people or I wouldn't be here. Also, any actual normie who stumbles across my posts would probably conclude I was autistic, which I hope shows how that's not my problem.
addendum: I guess I would say "I hate autists" in the same way I would say "I hate niggers" or "I hate faggots." If they could be those things without being antithetical to life and order, I would have no problems. It is precisely because they destroy and consume rather than build and inspire that makes me hate.