most women don't actually like the huge muscly cut look on men. i've seen more women thirsting over the fat god of war thor than i've seen seen interested in kratos
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This is something I believe about as much, as women believe men don't care about her diploma 🤣

@mushroom_soup @Mr_NutterButter
Also, please...
And I mean this, honestly. Do you have any virtue-signal-proof evidence of that claim?

I am really not asking to be rude. This is my autism speaking... But, when I go to the Artist alley and look at 30 different artists selling their husbandos, I can still count the number of obese characters on a single hand. An overwhelming majority of them are shreaded. I am not making this particular belief out of thin air. I just cannot see how that preference could be real in the observable world.

I think we are talking about different things. Men are judging the physique in isolation, women are judging what the physique is likely to indicate in his personality. The before photo looks gregarious and easy-going, the after photo looks high-strung and high maintenance. Think about the typical lady's romance novel, there's the meet-cute, they go on a couple of dates, and only after his personality and interest in her has been established do the go back to one of their places and she discovers he has a six-pack under his suit. Physique is hot only after the relationship is established, before that it seems like it's offputting, or maybe intimidating to a lot of ladies.

@nicholas @Mr_NutterButter @mushroom_soup
Yes, we are obviously talking about the attraction.

I don't care about the "socially expected" anwser. Yes, Lizzo is the most beautiful woman in the world, but don't you dare compare her to lizzo for some reason :D

@nicholas @Mr_NutterButter @mushroom_soup
I also don't care who they think is the easiest target to extract money from.

Come on man. You know exactly what I mean.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm not being obtuse or playing gotcha word games; I'm saying I think its worth considering that women's attraction function actually works fundamentally differently from mens'. 🤷‍♀️

i'm reminded about how the devs of mass effect had to add garrus as a romancable option because of the insane demand from women playing the game that they hadn't anticipated at all. women's attraction is VERY dependent on mental qualities and i think that's just hard for men to conceptualize.
nigger stop bitching and just go to some poor brown country if you want to buy an unwilling wife

Tulsi has more BDE than the entire manosphere put together, and any theory of competence that puts keir starmer higher than maggie thatcher needs to go back to the drawing board 🤷‍♀️

Oh, and Tulsi's about to be single again, so get ready to shoot your hag-dom shot.

If she is accepting payment for being wife than how is that unwilling that is a willing agreement for $$$ obviously and if not so then women do not actually have the agency to make agreements which means their "willingness" or not doesnt matter because they are not people with agency, duh. Logic trapped this foid.

@nicholas @Mr_NutterButter @mushroom_soup
That is why I asked with a woman in the thread.
Instead, I got your absolute excuse of an anwser here.

When the actual woman answered you, you called her a liar 🤷‍♀️ can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themself into, I guess.

This is such a well understood concept its widely memed:

"Take a photo of thing."

Boy takes a photo of thing

Girl takes a photo of how she feels about thing

Same phenomenon. Quit being a little baby; theory of mind isn't difficult.

@nicholas @Mr_NutterButter @mushroom_soup
Do you own her?
Or are we now finally in the age of female vote, where we agreed to listen to women directly without localizers?

shoehorns neurodivergence into conversion
offended by mention of broadly accurate stereotype
pretends not to understand in order to make discourse impossible
male feminist

Dude, you used to be cool, when did you turn into such a shitlib? I thought we could just be a couple of bros having a comfy chat about average sex differences, but you went and got your panties in a bunch. I hope you sleep whatever this is off and wake up based again in the morning. Good night.

@nicholas @Mr_NutterButter
You have injected yourself into a conversation under a question directed at @mushroom_soup , while also completely ignoring the entire point of the question. I am not triggered, but if you think that posting a meme about photography changed your gender, then good for you.

If she doesn't want to elaborate, fine by me. But I won't accept your word as an automatic authority on women's opinion, especially on a question that is purposefully directed at a woman to get her unfiltered opinion.

Physique is hot only after the relationship is established, before that it seems like it's offputting

So, kinda like telling a woman how the world works. You've got to (almost?) put a ring on it before you start dropping truth bombs.
Think that meme of ''well, there won't be a second date, but at least now she knows who is really responsible for the state of the world" or something like that.

@LukeAlmighty @mushroom_soup @Mr_NutterButter autistic women fixating over fictional characters husbandos and yaoi are not the same women actually talking to and dating real men


You're comparing women who don't change their pads and tampons to women who have basic hygiene standards
if you knew the number of fictional crushes i have had over my life you wouldn't be saying taht
@mushroom_soup @LukeAlmighty @Mr_NutterButter okay but how unhealthy or to what extremes because I'm talking about musty bitches who proudly call themselves femcels n fujoshis 👀

Even then women's ideal man isn't what men think women want (super muscley anime protag types) and I think we know this from BL authors or from people who curate stuff women actually want
i know this might be tough to hear but the majority of women who make their online personality about being autistic fujoshis are in fact just doing it performatively for male attention
@mischievoustomato @LukeAlmighty @Mr_NutterButter @ForbiddenDreamer @mushroom_soup @Owl better to be an autistic thriving girliepop over being a mindless porn riddled nopal (who pretends he is white) with a receding hairline
Bro I thought owl killed himself. Glad to hear it’s not too late.

@subnetter @Mr_NutterButter @mushroom_soup
The popularity of BL among supposedly "lesbian" fujoshis was the sweatest white pill I ever had.

who the fuck was crushing on harry when snape was RIGHT THERE
Snape? WTF!? What woman in their right mind would go for that old croak?
tragic complex yearning antihero with alan rickman's voice. again we circle back to the idea that men aren't really in touch with what women find attractive
He was just a spiteful bastard for most of the books up until around... What, Book 5?
the climax of the first book has the reveal that snape was looking after harry the entire time against the actual villain and basically every book afterwards had references or hints to his actual loyalties and agenda. again, many women love tragic yearning men
Yet when I yearn for trains and ethnic cleansing they go "hello, human resources?"
also i cannot overstate the importance of him being played by alan rickman

@mushroom_soup @Mr_NutterButter @JeffGrimesArt @adequate @subnetter
Yeah, missing Garrus was an huge mistake at first, but I am really happy they fixed that mistake with last 2 games.

Although, back then the female gamers were still an undiscovered species, so can you really blame them for not knowing?

@mushroom_soup @Mr_NutterButter @JeffGrimesArt @adequate @subnetter
I guess you wanted to imply, that I am wrong, because it's not authomatic and 100% rule?

I know, that there need to be more then 1 element to complete the picture... I am autistic, not an alien.

@mushroom_soup @LukeAlmighty @Mr_NutterButter @adequate @subnetter definitely didn't crush on Snape when reading the books (Hook nose? Oily hair? No thanks), until Alan Rickman played him in the movies.
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