The Rittenhouse trial is such a beautiful example of why media trust is at an all time low. The media says shit like "Kyle shot Rosenbaum after he threw a plastic bag at him.", acting as if all it took for kyle to shot him was a plastic bag, misframing/mischaracterizing the situation and completely IGNORING the fact that he yelled "If I catch you I'm going to fucking kill you!". Never mind the tidbit that Rosenbaum was a *literal* fucking pedophile.
Too many people were invested in this case and actually watched the trial instead of just reading the occasional headline, and now a LOT more people are seeing the hypocrisy and outright misinformation being spewed from the major news organizations.
@basilisk Irrelevant? Yes and no. At the time, Rittenhouse couldn't have known any of their backgrounds. In retrospect though, it is important to note their history and criminal/violent inclinations, as it shows that had Kyle *not* shot, they absolutely would've used his own gun against him.
Did Rosenbaum attack? He did lunge for Kyle's gun and - shortly before that - yell "If I catch you I'm going to fucking kill you", which, while not /physical/ assault (aka battery) does qualify as assault legally *1.
"-and there are so-called pedophiles who are patriots and trump supporters"
Fair point, although the political affiliation of Rosenbaum isn't part of the question/equation though. Pedophiles on either side should be condemned and jailed, same as criminals.
*1: https://www.eisenberglaw.org/firm-overview/articles/assault-battery-wisconsin/
"it is important to note their history and criminal/violent inclinations,"
criminal and violent should not go together since they have nothing to do with each other, criminal being just the government's word for anyone who breaks its laws
violent is also irrelevent since being a so-called pedophile has nothing to do with violence, on the contrary pedophiles are so passive they will not even fight back to defend themselves
@basilisk In a way, you're right. Smaller things like theft and traffic violations aren't indicative of violent tendencies. Crimes like domestic abuse (in the case of huber) are. I'd argue that pedophilia though (when acted upon) is, as it shows a lack of morals and flagrant disregard of right and wrong.
Like you said, not all pedophiles, but in the case of Rosenbaum it was (again, actively yelling threats and lunging for his gun. Not exactly the actions of a coward)
"I'd argue that pedophilia though (when acted upon) is, as it shows a lack of morals and flagrant disregard of right and wrong."
if you would "argue" this you would be dead wrong due, again, to a lack of facts. Rather than showing lack of morals pedophilia shows a heightened morality
rather than a flagrant disregard of anything it shows are more correct view of right and wrong not based on
peer pressure and government lies
"but in the case of Rosenbaum it was (again, actively yelling threats and lunging for his gun. Not exactly the actions of a coward)"
still his sexual orientations, which we really don't know, are not relevant to the case
"Pedophiles on either side should be condemned and jailed, same as criminals."
absolutely not
being a pedophile implies no crime or any action committed, it is a mental attitude or a proclivity
people should be jailed in some cases if the commit acts that harm other people and are also crimes
@basilisk When I say "Pedophile", I mean those who HAVE harmed kids, or are actively seeking to do so. I don't mean those who realize it's wrong and wish to seek help, or know enough not to harm or be creepy to kids.
So in a way, we're in agreement.
then you have a problem with definitions which is probably based on a problem with facts
pedophiles do not harm kids, nor are they "creepy" to kids, many kids are "creepy" to adults
no are pedophiles actively seeking to harm kids
nor is it wrong,
nor should anyone seek help for something that is healthy and good
when you know more you will realize this
@basilisk Before I address those other points, Imma stop you right there chief. What do you mean "[Pedophilia] is healthy and good"?
"What do you mean "[Pedophilia] is healthy and good"?"
your question displays are wholesome desire to learn
what do you mean by pedophilia as being harmful?
@basilisk It traumatizes kids and fucks them up for life. Are you memeing or are you actually dead serious here?
"It traumatizes kids and fucks them up for life"
you are not really answering the question, just restating it
try again to describe how this harm occurs specifically
have you seen personally any kids who were thus traumatized?
have you seen any adults who were fucked up for life by what you call pedophilia?
"Never mind the tidbit that Rosenbaum was a *literal* fucking pedophile."
irrelevant to the case, what's relevant is if rosenbaum attacked rittenhouse
and there are so-called pedophiles who are patriots and trump supporters