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@matrix
Vaush is the chad grifter. Kristi Winters is the queen of being disingenuous. Contrapoints is just mostly good at being dishonest.
The only honest actor among them I've witnessed so far is Destiny. But he's annoying as fuck, cause he's more interested in winning than just having an open discussion. Which makes him constantly be on the attack in any conversation, and leaves him looking like a prick.
@alyx
Destiny isn't really in that "crowd". He's a bit left leaning but not a socialist, currently he's on a streak debating socialists. He also defended Rittenhouse and got his Twitch partnership revoked for getting angry at the riots and saying people need to defend themselves (or something like that I don't remember exactly).
@alyx
The best label would probably be soc dem
@matrix
Probably. Depends a lot on how you define/understand these labels.
From my own perspective, American soc dem is just a poor attempt to distance themselves from the bad stigma of socialism, but anywhere else in the world, they'd probably just get called socialists anyway.
