@matrix
Vaush is the chad grifter. Kristi Winters is the queen of being disingenuous. Contrapoints is just mostly good at being dishonest.

The only honest actor among them I've witnessed so far is Destiny. But he's annoying as fuck, cause he's more interested in winning than just having an open discussion. Which makes him constantly be on the attack in any conversation, and leaves him looking like a prick.

@alyx
Destiny isn't really in that "crowd". He's a bit left leaning but not a socialist, currently he's on a streak debating socialists. He also defended Rittenhouse and got his Twitch partnership revoked for getting angry at the riots and saying people need to defend themselves (or something like that I don't remember exactly).

@matrix
No, Destiny is plenty left. It's just that unlike most socialists, he actually has some honesty in him and a spine too.

@alyx @matrix destiny is not a socialist (but only because the establishment isn't)
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Oh, he's definitely leaning towards socialism. He's just not as far gone as others, and he's a lot more willing to talk to outsiders. Also, because he actually tries to follow his principles, he won't go say completely insane things like you don't have a right to self defense.

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