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@TheMadPirate
Mostly because the virus went through a few mutations since then.
@alyx Doesn’t people become more resistant to variants of a virus in time when they develop natural immunity ?. You know, like influenza’s seasonal variants.
@TheMadPirate
Not necessarily, depends a lot on the mutations themselves. The real problem though is only a small percentage of the population had the actual disease, and developed natural immunity. And even for those, we already know that antibody number go down in time. In any case, relying on people developing natural immunity could translate to the pandemic lasting decades.
@alyx
>>The real problem though is only a small percentage of the population had the actual disease, and developed natural immunity.
So there is no even an epidemic? So what's matter?
>>And even for those, we already know that antibody number go down in time.
And it's absolutely normal. When antibodies have nothing to do, our body gets rid of them and low or even zero antibody number doesn't mean that @TheMadPirate - 1/2
immunity has ceased: human body will generate antibodies when it come across the virus again. Moreover keeping antibody number high permanently (using booster shots) is highly dangerous and in a long run can lead to autoimmune deseases or even cancer.
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@VikingKong @alyx So those booster shots could generate long term effects like infertility and such ?
@TheMadPirate @VikingKong
No. He's completely deluded. If anybody count was harmful in those ways, you'd be more concerned about the yearly flu shots or even just getting a cold on a regular basis.
@alyx My concern would be that the mRNA procedure start creating something akin to the “super bacteria” phenomena.
@TheMadPirate
It's amazing how much of people's fears of these vaccines is because of a misunderstanding of how these things work and even the process of evolution by natural selection works.
The mRNA vaccine itself can't interact with covid itself. mRNA can only interact with your cells. And what it does, is it tells your regular cells to create some of the proteins of the covid virus, which then the immune system notices in your body, detect them as foreign/dangerous, and begin fighting them, creating antibodies. This entire process is limited by the amount of RNA in the vaccine, at RNA is inherently fragile and has a limited lifetime.
I've also heard claims that the vaccines will trigger covid to mutate into vaccine resistant strains. That's somewhat true, but also a very poor understanding of the evolutionary process.
The virus will always mutate, with or without a vaccine. As long as there's someone that is susceptible to infection (not immune), then the virus can infect them and has a chance of mutating in them. If by random chance, a mutated strain is now resistant to existing vaccines, then it will be able to infect a larger selection of people and thus has more chances at mutating again. The effect is that a new strain has appeared that is now infecting vaccinated people, and it appears as if you've made the virus mutate in this way. The reality is the new strain would have appeared irrespective of the vaccine, but because of the vaccine it's the only strain that can still survive and infect any person, while the original strain is limited to only people who are not immune, so it will slowly die out.
It's a massive cat and mouse game, which you win by trying to limit through every means possible how fast people get infected, by trying to get them cured as fast as possible, and by trying to give them immunity as fast as possible, including with updated vaccines. The real fight is not against the virus, the real fight is against it's mutating potential.
@TheMadPirate
Yes. Absolutely.
@alyx I hope we all get ready for the SARS-2 Mexico City and Sao Paulo variants then….
@TheMadPirate
Well.. we weren't ready for the Indian delta variant either, so I doubt we'll be ready for the future ones.
@alyx That makes sense.
The real fight is not against the virus, the real fight is against it’s mutating potential.
Would that be dependent on the population density ? I mean would mega cities with densely populated be a more prone environment to increase the mutating potential ?.