@crunklord420
I don't care what side you're on, don't use kids for propaganda. That's all I have to say.

@alyx @crunklord420 Libs would do the exact same. If they had kids, anyways.

@horsesoldier @crunklord420
Is that supposed to be a reason why it's ok? Cause all I'm hearing is further reason why the truckers or their supporters shouldn't do it.

@alyx @crunklord420 You are witnessing a peaceful protest with fairly reasonable demands being violently suppressed after the liberal government invoked a law which had last been invoked during the World Wars and an event which involved kidnappings and murders. There are media shills at work lying and smearing the protesters as being various -ists and -phobes, while the police's own media shills justify their murder of an elderly woman by lying about it. The act which enables this brutality was passed to suppress a peaceful protest, in what amounted to a glorified temper tantrum by the government, whose will is being carried by worthless golems with a fetish for violence. These people would rather kill every single protester, peaceful or otherwise, than even consider speaking to one of them for even a millisecond. No amount of principles, morality, niceness or anything of the sort will stop them because liberals are monsters who hate you and want you dead for not thanking them when they fuck you. It follows then that any and all measures which can be used to stop them are equally valid, up to and including bringing kids to the protest. Even if they hadn't the social media shills would just make something up. All that matters is winning, because if they don't win they're already dead or worse. They'll be arrested, bank accounts frozen, the kids will be taken away from them. Thinking about morality doesn't matter when your enemy is fundamentally immoral, and moreover will use your morals against you.

@horsesoldier @crunklord420
I literally don't care. They could be fighting the forces of Satan and Hitler reincarnated. YOU DON'T USE CHILDREN FOR PROPAGANDA. That's basically my one rule.

@alyx @crunklord420 Attempting to enforce morality when you haven't won is a hopeless cause. If you want to prevent kids from attending protests, which is reasonable enough, you must first deal with the people enforcing their morality (senseless violence against peaceful protesters) on you and yours.
As for your distinction between liberal and leftist, it doesn't matter. Liberalism is a catchall for managerialism, governments run by HR types and people with fake make-work jobs, which are largely supported by both "classical" leftists like communists and generic "pro-democracy, pro-free market" types. It doesn't matter what you call them or what they call themselves, what they are is enemies of their nation and of humanity more broadly. Anyone who genuinely cares about personal liberties and political freedoms will be smeared as "far-right" nowadays.

@horsesoldier @crunklord420
If you're okay with winning by the same kind of immoral tactics your opposition is using, how are you any better? Why dethrone the current dictator if the next one has the same bad values? I'd rather not bother in the first place.

@alyx @crunklord420 Since time immemorial regimes have won wars with immoral and dirty tactics. Should William of Normandy have waited for the Norwegians to get sent back to Oslo before attacking England? Should he have spared the Anglo-Saxon lords instead of killing or exiling the lot of them because it's "immoral" to destroy your future political rivals?
Of course not. If one wins, his goal should be to purge his opposition and then implement his views. He will have an easy time with it because his opposition is busy fertilizing the fields or too far away to influence political affairs.
Bear in mind that the views here are "please let us make our own medical decisions, we're adults" and "governments shouldn't be allowed to rule by decree with the excuse of stopping one single SARS Influenza virus, which you've also failed to do".
Only three kinds of people would oppose these views, which are people whose worldview is colored by the media (which will support you once you control the media), empty-shell enforcers (who will support you if you're paying them) and the kind of people who genuinely believe that, yes, it is reasonable to turn the world into a security state to allegedly stop a singular virus (liberals). I'm better because I don't want a security state, except against people who do, and even then only because they are evil and have shown themselves to be the kind of person who will commit untold horrors against anyone who so much as mildly inconveniences them.
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