@Terry
Be careful with guides that might be out of date, or for a different distro. Also, why do you need to change swappiness? Or is this about something else now?

@alyx @alyx my machines been stuttering a lot lately also I can't do things like play vidya and watch podcasts without it crashing.
@Terry @alyx Have you tried low latency tuned kernels yet?

@white_male @Terry
Something tells me he's new to Linux. Last thing he needs is experimenting with unofficial kernels.

@alyx @Terry Low latency kernel mods are even in mainstream Ubuntu repos, can't get more user friendly kernel upgrade than with apt.

@white_male @Terry
A distro ships with a certain kernal by default for a reason. If the low latency kernel was the better choice even for beginners, it would have been installed by default, and we wouldn't have been having this conversation.

Also, fuck Ubuntu.

@alyx @Terry I had the butt hurt report card somewhere around here. You seem like you could use one. :D

@white_male @Terry
Honestly I'm surprised you didn't tell him to install Arch or Gentoo.

@white_male @Terry
Let a fucking beginner learn how things work in his own pace. Don't push unnecessary bullshit on him. You'll just drive people away from Linux, you god damned idiot.

@alyx @Terry I've seen @Terry solving some other Linux issues he came up against already. Stop shitting your pants.

@white_male @Terry@bae.st @Terry@poa.st
His issue is not the fucking kernel everyone else on his distro uses. Stop being a moron. You don't need a low latency kernel unless you do audio processing stuff, and it doesn't sound like that's what he's looking for.

@alyx @Terry @Terry Low latency kernels are an improvement for desktops on old hardware. We'll see when he reports back, won't we?
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@white_male @Terry@bae.st @Terry@poa.st
I have a 8 year old desktop that is doing just fine without a special kernel. I'd say that's old enough. HIS ISSUE IS NOT THE KERNEL.

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@alyx @Terry @Terry Next i'll have him remove avahi services, just for kicks. :D

@white_male @Terry@bae.st @Terry@poa.st
You're despicable, and the reason Linux is incapable of becoming a Windows replacement.

@alyx @Terry @Terry I'm not, now i'm just pulling your leg to see how high up the ass you've got your head.

Can't comprehend, why is a safe one command kernel mod causing so much butt hurt with you?

@white_male @Terry@bae.st @Terry@poa.st
The butthurt is that you're forcing a beginner to change things in his OS that he likely doesn't understand. And when something finally goes wrong, and borks his system, you'll just say "oops" and jump ship, with no one left to clean the mess. And you know what happens to the average beginner left in this spot? They go back to user friendly Windows. Congrats!

@white_male @Terry@bae.st @Terry@poa.st
I'll say it again, people like you are the reason Linux will NEVER be a mainstream desktop OS.

@alyx @Terry @Terry Eh, Android will win us the desktop battle, linux brofist.
@alyx @Terry @Terry I've never seen a kernel upgrade go wrong on Ubuntu, nor it's derivatives. Why are you betting against 99.99%?

@white_male @Terry@bae.st @Terry@poa.st
I have seen plenty of Ubuntu upgrades go wrong. Fuck Ubuntu.

And it's not about this upgrade going wrong now, it's about you changing his install on your whim, and leaving him in a position where he'll be even more confused about how Linux works. You can't have him change thing after thing in his system and expect him to be able to keep track of things or understand any of it. He probably doesn't even know what a kernel is, and you're making him change it on a literal whim? Cause you definitely have done no actual troubleshooting.

And morons like you seem to have no clue just how easy it is for a beginner to completely nuke their distro, simply on the account of them not knowing how everything connects and then trying to change something that looks and were told is small.

@alyx @Terry @Terry It's a system inbuilt one liner command, with a fail over mechanism. Chill the fuck out.

@white_male @Terry@bae.st @Terry@poa.st
Please stop pretending Linux is perfect and flawless and never fails. It does all the time, especially in the hands of a beginner. Which is precisely why I don't push them into doing things they likely don't understand.

@alyx @Terry @Terry I'm not pretending, i'm literally telling it's as user friendly and idiot proof in one solution as you can get. He doesn't need to understand the possible benefits of it to apply it. Very much Windows desktop like experience. ;]

@white_male @Terry@bae.st @Terry@poa.st
>Very much Windows desktop like experience
That's the biggest lie I've ever heard anyone say about Linux, and I've been using it for well over a decade now. Wow. I wish I could literally nuke you.

@alyx @Terry @Terry I've coached blond females over the phone to do worse to their Linux boxes i cursed them with, 100% success rate.

@white_male @Terry@bae.st @Terry@poa.st
Sure it can work, but you're just leaving them confused, and instead of them actually learning something about the OS, they just become dependent on people fixing their system over and over again, until they finally have enough, and go back to Windows, where they are more likely to understand how to fix it themselves.

That shouldn't be the goal. The goal is for Terry to be able to understand how Linux functions. I'm sure you could talk him into compiling the kernel manually. But he won't understand a thing of it, and when the OS breaks somewhere down the line, will YOU be there to recompile his kernel?

But you'll never get it. Cocky morons like you never do.

Do whatever, but don't come crying to me. Don't talk to me EVER again.

@alyx @Terry @Terry >The goal is for Terry to be able to understand how Linux functions.
I thought it was about potentially fixing his shit so he could be on his merry way.

You know, just like Windows. Like 85-90% people who use it have no idea how it works. That's the benchmark for breaking into desktop space, being idiot proof and requiring zero know how.
Head-up-the-ass educators like you turn people away, you make a hassle out of simple things.

@white_male @Terry@bae.st @Terry@poa.st
>you make a hassle out of simple things
>simple things
That's rich, coming from the person who's FIRST recommendation is to change kernels.

This will be the LAST time I tell you this. NEVER TALK TO ME EVER AGAIN.

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