One of the common questions about the current culture wars is, why do conservatives seem to have a decades worth of foresight compared to the left.
Well, obvious question is, that the war is of the leftie agression, but the more complex one is, that they refuse to take a look at their own precedence.
For instance, there is so called laugh test. It says, that no matter what the law says, if it's application is so ridiculous, that the jury will laugh you out of the curt, then it is as good as void. But, is that really so? Because 15 years ago, it was clearly demonstrated, that logical coherence of laws is not important at all thanks to many open discrimination rulings. Here is the problem though. They didn't understand, that they did break the laugh test. So, how do you explain to them, that Trump going balls deep on governmental institutions with no protection is actually quite expected, since ignoring laws and proper procedures was introduced into the common practice more then 15 years ago?
@LukeAlmighty Do/Did conservatives actually have foresight in all of this? Maybe you have some specific examples in mind, but to me it seems that conservatives have been struggling to react. The strong opposition to everything social-justice/feminism/woke has come from moderate liberals, or "centrist" types, that sometimes slowly moved rightward as the culture war progressed.
To me it seems like conservatives are still clueless about how bad things are. Meanwhile I was saying that social-justice, what we call woke today, was a religion for close to a decade. I've been doubting the new trans ideology for at least three quarters of that time. I've seen the intentional uglyfication of female characters in games since ME:Andromeda. I've called Antifa as being today's Nazis brown shirts since they first appeared.
I can't remember how many observations and hypothesis over what is happening I've thought about over the years that I've seen intellectuals discover from scratch years later than me.
Easy example, Gad Saad has been talking about idea pathogens for a few years now, and describing "woke" as such a pathogen. But this isn't new concept. I read "The God Virus" by Darrel Ray over a decade ago, before even GamerGate, and realized the social-justice/woke movement was essentially the same thing as Darrel Ray was describing. He just didn't have the foresight to generalize his concept, and he was just focusing on religion.
And I am definitely NOT a conservative. Back then I was liberal-left enough, that taking a political test that recommended what US presidential candidate best fit your politics gave me Bernie Sanders.
There was nothing conservative about me observing this crap and opposing it. None of the thought leaders or "intellectuals" that shaped me before were conservatives. It wasn't conservative values that lead me to realize "bruh, progressivism is bad" before the word became mainstream.
So I really am curious what specifically you have in mind when you say conservatives have decades worth of foresight. Because I don't think this was what I experienced so far in this culture war.
@LukeAlmighty Oh... ok... In that case, sure. I can agree with your original post.
But man... you really shouldn't use the word "conservative" in that way without expressly saying that's how you're defining it. And even then, you're still gonna get people angry at you for misdefining "conservative".
@alyx
Yeah, literally all political description terms are absolutely fucked though.
@alyx
In this case, I meant the anti-woke people. Political language is always a mess, and I personally hate the term conservative itself, since it is based on the left wing view of linear progress.
But.... I really lack the word for people, who want a society to stabilize.