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@lamp pedophilic disorder isn't even diagnosed if it doesn't cause distress. pedophilia in general is incredibly sensationalized/weaponized and i would consider that a bad thing because when it gets like that, i believe it CAN cause distress. people get in their own head about it and start to freak out, maybe get depressed or do something rash. especially if there is something like childhood trauma that caused someone to think this way, or other mental issues.

even though many of my views are controversial (the circle i'm visiting just changes which ones are), i try my best to be as level-headed as possible and not let sensationalism get to me if i can help it. i feel like people wanting to kill/maim or otherwise harshly punish pedophiles are very similar to say, people who want to punch nazis or remove their rights for saying things they disagree with. two sides of the same coin. beliefs and thoughts should not be met with actions, they should be met with civilized debate, study, and philosophy.

killing or torturing someone who has technically done nothing wrong (and may have just had wrong done to them) is highly unethical and heartless from my point of view.

it's highly hypocritical when it is coming from people who advocate for free speech and to be left the fuck alone because they aren't doing anything harmful. you know that people who disagree with what you have to say would strip you of your rights (or worse) in an instant if they could, so why is it okay to do that to others?

two relevant quotes below:

Sorry try again, you destroy a child life and you want me to give you a chance to do it again or even do it. It's a very dangerous mental illness and destroy children that have 0 ways of defending themselves I'll that take burned on my back poor victims. Some things cannot be cured and if you are a pedophile I'd advise to you to cure yourself before others do it.
It's not a rabid dog's fault it contracted rabies, but it still needs to be put down regardless.

@Hoss @beardalaxy @Mackiavelli13 Is it really like rabies though? If it's merely the passive ability to get sexually aroused, I'd think it be no harder to manage than sexual attraction to adults.

I've only known one pedophile, whom said they have a "line" and only consumed lolicon content. They seemed like a perfectly fine person, but seemed to be under tension of the social stigma. I don't know them anymore, but are you saying there's a good chance they might cause harm in the future?

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@lamp @Hoss @beardalaxy @Mackiavelli13 It's taboo so nobody really talks about it. Then people only hear about "pedos" when they're on the news

The mainstream doesn't even consider most child molesters pedophilic
>This usage is considered problematic by researchers, because many child molesters do not have a strong sexual interest in prepubescent children, and are consequently not pedophiles.[11][12][25] There are motives for child sexual abuse that are unrelated to pedophilia,[81] such as stress, marital problems, the unavailability of an adult partner,[102] general anti-social tendencies, high sex drive or alcohol use.[103] As child sexual abuse is not automatically an indicator that its perpetrator is a pedophile, offenders can be separated into two types: pedophilic and non-pedophilic[104] (or preferential and situational).[9] Estimates for the rate of pedophilia in detected child molesters generally range between 25% and 50%.[105] A 2006 study found that 35% of its sample of child molesters were pedophilic.[106] Pedophilia appears to be less common in incest offenders,[107] especially fathers and step-fathers.[108] According to a U.S. study on 2429 adult male sex offenders who were categorized as "pedophiles", only 7% identified themselves as exclusive; indicating that many or most child sexual abusers may fall into the non-exclusive category.[10]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophil

Often with people like lolicons they can't even be open about it with themselves. They go to pretty great lengths to try and justify how fapping to a drawing of a eight year old doesn't make them attracted to eight year olds

Historically child marriage was normal, most men have some attraction to underage girls, and some relatively large portion bellcurves to the younger side. Most aren't exclusive so they don't struggle with it. This is pretty consistent with phallometric studies

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