@matana oh yeah like i said, the sonic games can still be really good, but sonic himself as a concept just doesn't translate well to games unless it's done in a game where speed is the sole focus.

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@matana you can't really speed past underwater sections or these fucking blocks though no matter how good you are at the game xD unless we're talking like, speedrunning tricks and exploits like making sure you're on the exact cycle to get the best rotations or whatever. there's just a lot of waiting around that happens or really slow movement.

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