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Why am I not skipping the intro of Edgerunners? Yeah, it's only 100s, but still. I would skip them in any other show.

@LukeAlmighty @LukeAlmighty I kind of want to watch edgerunners but I have a suspicion that it has a rather sad ending so I don't want to.
@LukeAlmighty @sjw @LukeAlmighty Without getting into major spoilers as to what happens to which character, the city (and the rest of the world) that the people are in chews up people and spits them out. It's just that kind of setting.
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@heavens_feel @sjw @LukeAlmighty iirc original versions of cyberpunk had extreme sanity losses for changing your gender and your character actually had to go to therapy otherwise they would go insane

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy @sjw @LukeAlmighty -1D6 Humanity is not that bad compared to some of the harsher penalties for extremely radical body modification* (putting your brain into a helicopter, a combat borg replacement shell, etc.)

* I think the penalty could be higher if it was an involuntary modification (if it was done, for example, by the plastic surgeon to the target of his revenge in the film "The Skin I Live In". )
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@heavens_feel @sjw @LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy important distinction: cyberpunk humanity is a representation of disassociation resulting from body augmentation. there's literally a therapist option that restores it over [long] periods of time, but cyberpsychosis is basically you completely disassociate with being a person and lose all empathy with humanity.

(shadowrun, though, ...)
@heavens_feel @LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy @sjw shadowrun essence can never be recovered.

i think CBRed reaffirmed this by adding a paragraph that if you are a veteran whos leg is blown off and replaced with a human standard equivalent it specifically does not incur cyberpsychosis rolls, and i think sex changes were made zero too.
@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy @heavens_feel @sjw shadowrun essence can never be recovered. its supposed to be a representation of your original self being replaced because the soul is tied to the OEM parts or whatever and so the more you replace of your body the less of a presence you have on a spiritual level.

people who like being offended took this to mean having a robot arm makes you "less of a person" (like say the CDDA crowd who basically said essense is a wokeness violation as part of the no-fun-allowed-for-CBMs campaign) but its really just a balance measure so you can't make a mage who is a living tony stark suit

@icedquinn @heavens_feel @sjw @LukeAlmighty people who are missing limbs still experience phantom pain and limbs. bodies can reject other types of blood and organs from donors. so the idea of a cyberpunk setting where people are removing stuff on purpose and swapping it out is kind of like, how far can you go until your mind kind of shatters due to the dissonance of having body parts that aren't your own?

that's why stuff like therapy exists there too, because it does in real life for people who need to get prosthetics or go through other life altering changes. only in the cyberpunk genre it's exaggerated a little because everything is and that's kind of the point.

@heavens_feel @sjw @LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy oh yeah. bubblegum crisis basically used the original cyberpunk rulebook. but with anime girls.
@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy @icedquinn @sjw @LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy The flesh is spiritual. It occurs in nature. The machine isn't. When I ran Cybercthulhu an insane AI had to steal MP and POW to be able to cast magic. As a digital lifeform it had none of those things naturally.
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