Rubbing your hands together is standard practice for bankers, lawyers, politicians and used car salesmen. Why wouldn't it be for doctors too?
@Silverwolf @Humpleupagus @beardalaxy @matrix @cereal Also keep in mind that doctors are used to dealing with retards and neurotic women who google "headache" and WebMD tells them they have cancer. I'd expect most people here are the opposite, the type who avoid interacting with the medical system until it is absolutely necessary. If you are one of those people, don't let the doctor fob you off on a therapist or recommend "wait and see", firmly advocate for yourself and make sure you are getting the medical care you need.
@InceptionState @Silverwolf @Humpleupagus @beardalaxy @matrix @cereal The "retards and neurotic women" are the "You remember that patient you sent home last week? Died this morning."

Doctors just suck, intentionally. The entire incentive structure and their work environment is for them to have as little personal connection with the patient as possible, ignore your symptoms, and get the appointment over with ASAP while giving you as little actual medical care as possible.

You suffer for months, finally call the doctor, get an appointment 8 months out, drive an hour, wait an hour, sit in the exam room for an hour with a nurse popping in to do very basic shit, then finally see a GP nurse practitioner for 15 minutes who has 20 other appointments that day, and MAYBE get a referral to go through the same bullshit again with a specialist who's also going to dismiss your symptoms and gatekeep you from health care as hard as possible. People with symptoms of a thing should be checked for that thing, even if the shitty, minimally-invasive tests suggest otherwise. Even ERs in America don't really care unless you're literally currently dying - think cardiac arrest or heart attack, not unstable angina, coronary artery spasm, arterial dissection, or cancer (even though those things will all kill you and need to be found and treated ASAP).
@AidanTTIerian @Silverwolf @Humpleupagus @beardalaxy @matrix @cereal Funny, that's basically the opposite of my experience in the US. GP appointments are a few days tops, they are happy to refer to a specialist, and specialists are more than happy to run expensive tests. That's how everyone gets paid, by providing medical services. The shitty part is trying to make sure you don't get screwed by your insurance provider during one of the steps along the way.

Sometimes you just have to be clear with the doctor that you aren't a retard, it isn't a psych issue, and that you already tried "wait and see" before you scheduled an appointment. It really helps to have a long-term GP, since then they have track record with you and know that you aren't a hypochondriac.
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@InceptionState @Humpleupagus @matrix @Silverwolf @AidanTTIerian @cereal the problem is when the specialists don't know what they're doing. I have been to two different ENTs because my ears have had an eternal itch for 10 years and neither of them knew what was happening. Neither of them asked about potential diet changes. One gave me GERD medicine (even though I don't have acid reflux) and the other gave me allergy medicine that did nothing.

I went to a church recommended (licensed) therapist once and even though I had been diagnosed with a mood disorder previously she said nothing was wrong with me and I just needed to pray to god :MonkaChrist:

Then you have to factor in younger people. Young adults and teens don't really have that same kind of firmness and experience with doctors. If the doc says something is wrong then they must be right.

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