My switch is already permanently console banned from Nintendo online, but it's not bricked. My assumption is that we'll have to wait for mod chips. I don't think they're gonna do something as silly as forget to close the RCM back door this time. Probably safe to assume it will be an Efuse. They will probably try to make it harder to do emunand this time around as well. I wonder if they're still going to keep using the same horizon OS or make something new for a change.

I'm trying tpretty hard to give a shit about the Switch 2 though. The Switch games I already have look great on my TV when used with the M Classic. Game cards and vinyl were pretty much the only physical media I cared about investing in and now they've ruined that.

@mitchconner @emma @Hoss the game key card thing at least won't apply to first party games. it's only third parties that will be using it. apparently it's like $20-$25 for a cartridge because they've gotta be really fast and the way their architecture is, 64gb is the lowest storage capacity and the only one nintendo will be producing.

i honestly think that without the game key cards, all these third parties would just be doing code in a box or purely digital anyway. so at the very least, it IS better than a one-time-use code. still not ideal but i think nintendo is probably trying to make the most out of an awkward situation.

i pre-ordered a switch 2, i'm a mario kart fiend so i needed it lmao.

Every single game that I own is fully playable without an online download. The only thing I can think of hand that really changed was Diablo 3 came with a completely different icon for some reason. I guess it's my romanticized notion of some kid finding it in an attic some day and being able to examine it.

@beardalaxy @mitchconner @emma @Hoss the problem with console fags is that they worship physical games. Shit like digital game cards and game key cards are just combing the worst of physical and digital into one awful package which coomlectors because they need to pay $60 yo have a box on the shelf. Video games are the first fully digital medium the second people realize this and stop obsessing over the delivery method and realize this fact we can push for drm free games on open platforms.

@KaiserKitty @beardalaxy @mitchconner @emma @Hoss
>Video games are the first fully digital medium the second people realize this and stop obsessing over the delivery method and realize this fact we can push for drm free games on open platforms.

They'll find nice workarounds. Remember how much of a win DRM free music was when Apple finally caved? Remember when they replaced it with streaming which had lower payouts AND "pulled from streaming?" Or how Steam was "good enough" for the normie masses.

That's not counting that new hardware can cost as much as a used Altima.

@KaiserKitty @beardalaxy @mitchconner @emma @Hoss The other problem is, on the open platform it's great for single player games. For MP games? You'd better hope it's from a dev who gives two shits and a fuck and is patching those pesky RCE bugs. Just look at Activision and how they could care less if playing a 10 year old game of theirs on the PC leaves you wide open to some serious RCE exploits (which don't happen on Xbox/PS, the worst that happens is some skid DDoSes you or uses a hard freeze exploit)

@sendpaws @KaiserKitty @mitchconner @emma @Hoss yeah I wanted to get back to playing blops 3 but apparently that's all over the place unless you use a specific mod, but only people with the mod can play each other and there's no matchmaking.

@beardalaxy @KaiserKitty @mitchconner @emma @Hoss you have to turn off the password and uncheck friends only iirc

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@beardalaxy @KaiserKitty @mitchconner @emma @Hoss yeah i just did that i'm on bo3 rn on steam :)

@mitchconner @emma @Hoss as far as i can tell, the OS is exactly the same. but it could theoretically be a different OS with a switch 1 skin over it.

Yeah, so if it's the same stuff, then it just a matter of mod-chipping it and then porting the atmosphere kernel replacement, whatever that is called. I forget what it's called off the top of my head. But if people can get atmosphere running on the new switch with the open source kernel, then things will be fine.

OK fine I'll look it up. Oh the kernel is called mesophere. I think this is the only open-source project I can think of that has been able to create a kernel that can replace the existing one on a proprietary OS like that, aside from like some other crazier projects for older Windows versions. https://github.com/Atmosphere-NX/Atmosphere/tree/master/mesosphere

Also
>meso

@mitchconner @emma @Hoss i have no doubt in my mind that the modding community will be working overtime to try and get shit cracked on the switch 2.

@mitchconner @beardalaxy @emma @Hoss the switch 1 modchip relied on a hardware exploit and while microsoft fixed this both with new hardware designs (which unfortunately for them were at the tail end) and by making the xbox one hardware more robust against hardware attacks, nintendo's strategy is to just throw legal at the problem.

Maybe the Switch 2 will have protections against hardware exploits if they were smart because Microsoft learned from the RGH and Kamikaze hacks that people will do anything and literally anything for free games including drilling holes in chips.

@Hoss @beardalaxy @emma

So you're saying there's a packet i can spam to brick all networked consoles?

I assume the kill command is signed with a key from Nintendo HQ or something.

@Hoss @dsm @beardalaxy @emma nah you just gotta be on mushrooms for it to make sense

@thatguyoverthere @Hoss @beardalaxy @emma

Can't hurt to try.

@dsm @Hoss @beardalaxy @emma

@Hoss @emma for the most part, switch 2s are only going to get bricked if they have already found a way to jailbreak the console. and in that case, you'll be able to make a backup NAND and restore your console and just keep it offline.

@beardalaxy @Hoss @emma as long as it's not an efuse blowout like on the 360...(this is what ms did to XDKs that were caught connecting to partnernet when they were telling authorized devs "do not connect" before they learned to whitelist and before kids began to disable the ability to blow the efuses)

@Hoss @beardalaxy @emma Let 's just give the hackers enough time, paper clips, tweezers and aluminum foil and they will crack open the switch 2

@EdBoatConnoisseur @Hoss @beardalaxy @emma Give me 2 seconds and i will crack open that switch 2 real good

@XaetaCore @Hoss @beardalaxy @emma i did not mean nut inside the swtich 2

@EdBoatConnoisseur @xaetacore @emma @Hoss i mean, switch 1 was pretty nut worthy

@EdBoatConnoisseur @beardalaxy @XaetaCore @emma @Hoss clearly you have never tried to crack a console with your nut before