I don't know why people were expecting Metroid Prime 4 to be good. I remember anons on 8/v/ warning about how woke Retro Studios has become back when Nintendo announced that they were restarting the project with them instead of Bandai Namco. Speaking of which, there is a comment on Synthetic Man's Metroid Prime 4 video which theorizes that they dropped Bamco after the success of BoTW and thought that only a western dev could pull it off as open-world games are more common there.
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@xianc78 from everything I've heard the game is not that bad, people are extremely overreacting to it because it just isn't as good as mp1/2 and there are some particular niggles about it. There's nothing "woke" about the game despite one of the writers genuinely believing Samus is trans. There's one annoying ass character that doesn't even show up much and the "open world" is a glorified version of the shadow of the colossus one where you get a bike instead of a horse. Everything else seems really, really solid, a little antiquated perhaps. The game even looks and runs REALLY nice. I mean come on, we've got a modern FPS running on mobile hardware at 120fps and you can use the perfect symbiosis of mouse and joystick controls. That alone is awesome.
I really, really hate the trajectory gaming discourse is headed towards where if your game isn't fucking perfect in some 30+ year old dude's gay opinion it is the worst thing ever and you deserve to be taken out back for making it.
@GD5426 @xianc78 there's the issue in there that people had with mp3 and other m as well which is that there is a bit too much dialogue. Samus herself doesn't talk AFAIK but you don't need that much dialogue in a metroid game regardless. Still that doesn't mean the game is like absolute trash and you should completely avoid it. That's ridiculous to say. From what I've seen, the story is relatively interesting too, I like the backdrop of a federation vs space pirates war with weapons of mass destruction.
@beardalaxy @GD5426 She doesn't talk in this game, which is bizarre given that Metroid Dread gave her a one liner. I honestly don't get why they made her a silent protagonist again. She's usually quiet in most of the games only because she is alone on planets with little to no intelligent life, but she does the narration in some of her games.
@xianc78 in general, this year has seen people getting a lot more radical but also pretty irrational.
@Nudhul @xianc78 we don't know that for sure, that's pure conjecture. Bamco could have been having any number of other problems with it. Clearly Nintendo has a good relationship with them, and I think they actually wanted retro to make the game but they just weren't able to at the time.
It could be that they wanted open world stuff and so they gave it to a different dev, but even then it's just a transitional space in the game for the most part. The levels are otherwise pretty much like any other metroid AFAIK. Plus like... Has retro actually done anything open world? You would think they would have gone with another pick if that's REALLY what they wanted. Who knows though?
@beardalaxy @Nudhul
>Has retro actually done anything open world?
There was that cancelled Zelda clone for the GameCube. It doesn't have to be Retro itself that has the experience, but if people from Retro previously worked at companies who have made open world games then it's good enough.
