@irie @flux_the_cat then maybe he should start his day with the gym and doing some kind of hobby and then go to work and come home, do his home stuff, and go to bed. If it means waking up at 4am so be it. There are always ways around this. Most of the time people aren't tired, they are unmotivated. They're willing to accept that the way things currently are is just how it is and they're waiting for some external force to come in and change that for them.

I have friends that will come home "so tired" and do nothing but sit around and play video games they hate for 4-5 hours despite waxing poetic for years about wanting to write a book or start drawing or go to the gym. Just do like one hour a day at least. If you get stuck in that same butt fuck routine, no wonder you get so depressed.