@critical @hj @matrix it might be about how asians have a different ideal BMI idk
@mangeurdenuage @matrix Ernest Borgnine was a big fat guy and he lived to be like, 93. And look at John Goodman!
@SpudsRudeEye @matrix
Statistically speaking citing two people out of the whole population doesn't support your claim.
There are exceptions due to genetics.
These two people you cited more or less lived in an era where food was not the garbage that is made everyday.
These two people weren't obese all their life.
@mangeurdenuage @matrix I'll contest that Ernest Borgnine used to be in great shape, particularly in movies like Marty and The Poseidon Adventure, but... John Goodman? I'm pretty sure John Goodman has struggled with his weight all his life. His first acting gig was in his 20s, they chose him because he was a big guy for a Burger King commercial and said all he had to do was bite into a Whopper with glee.

Alan Hale Jr. lived to be 68 or 69 and Carroll O'Connor made it to 76. I'm not saying obesity is a good thing, I'm just saying that some people live all their lives for an unusually long amount of time with it.

The same can be true of people over 300 pounds who are in excellent shape-- look at The Ultimate Warrior from WWF. He was a walking six pack and a heart attack still killed him because his cardiovascular system couldn't handle the weight of his own body.

@georgia @matrix
Nah, still a shotty person...

Most women seem fuckable until they open their mouths... :alexjonessmile:

@matrix Most of this makes logical sense though. The BMI is not racist, but it is still a bad indicator conceptually. There are better indicators for fat-related body issues. Overweight is unhealthy and I disagree with her on the education part. We need to continue to educate our kids to stay in a healty weight range.

@matrix The BMI doesnt factor in the weight of your muscles (and a variety of other things). A bodybuilder will have a bad BMI because of the weight of his muscles, but he's still healthy.

@matrix If you want to be an ally for fat women bring them a Sara Lee strawberry cheesecake.

Fat chicks love that shit.

@matrix If you want to be a great ally to people who eat rocks, here are some things you do.

When you go to the orthodontist , encourage them to do the following things:

1- Stop using the 32-normative, two-rows teeth arrangement standard because it is ineffective and homophobic.

2- Demand snack rocks in the waiting room

3- Ask that they dye your teeth black to fight racism
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