@matrix honestly it's a great addition to a hacker conference.

all the 'fascism' talks aren't though
@lain @matrix I wouldn't care about those honestly. That comes with the crowd which is mostly antifa or closely related. What is a bummer though are the actual tech talks hidden behind flinta.
@phnt @matrix *dyes my hair badly* umm can i join now?
@lain @matrix I mean, I could shave and that would be it. My hair is more than enough long to fit in.
@phnt @matrix CCC was always kinda cringe because it's old school lefty hackers, it's just more obvious now becuase it's zeitgeisty cringe. still plenty of good talks there, at least.
@lain @phnt @matrix you forgot German. Old school lefty German hackers. The ultimate cringe.
@pwm @phnt @matrix @lain defcon is the same almost.

its full of idiots doing the whole "tee hee hee we're such nerds" types of people.
@ins0mniak @phnt @matrix @lain and yet they are all gainfully employed. Maybe I should have been a tee hee hee nerd.
@pwm @ins0mniak @phnt @matrix just becuase you're cringe doesn't mean you're not competent. even sonic fans have jobs.

@pwm @ins0mniak @phnt @matrix @lain

Imagine. All our networks would go p00f if HR of infrastructure companies would not pick them. This throws up many questions.

@lain definitely, DIY stuff is always interesting, but I'm willing to bet 20€ that the word "fascism/fascist" will be said at least once by the presenter

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