@mewmew The Republican party is milquetoast as fuck in most regards, except for some holdover religous issues that no one actually cares about anymore. @terryenglish @a7
@shampoobottle @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @a7 Not even a lot of those lol
Ain't no Republicans talking about gay marriage nowadays
@a7 I'm a horseshoe so I think we should have mandatory abortions for low income minorities. @mewmew @terryenglish @realcaseyrollins
@shampoobottle @mewmew @terryenglish @realcaseyrollins this is why i dont like abortion - it basically is this with how they educate it and shame poor people for having children and existing.
@a7 @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle It's called eugenics.
@realcaseyrollins @mewmew @terryenglish @shampoobottle “why are you only building abortion clinics in majority colored neighborhoods” - sshhhhh shhhh small one it is just womens rights its not eugenics and slow genocide !
@a7 @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle It's not just black people btw
@realcaseyrollins @a7 @mewmew @terryenglish @shampoobottle
The assertion that there must be a racial component here because black people get more abortions is rather fallacious, and the question about why more of them are built near poor communities is answered by the premise of the first question (i.e. they're matching supply with demand)
1) The raw stat doesn't account for socio-economic differences. Poor people get more abortions because part of the motivation for an abortion is not being able to afford the kid. More black people are poor, so you would expect to see higher numbers in that population.
2) It's an elective procedure, not something forced on them by the state. Someone choosing to have an abortion is very different than someone being sterilized against their will, and in fact isn't being sterilized at all.
@dave @realcaseyrollins @mewmew @terryenglish @shampoobottle yes the rich keep lining their pockets and tell the poor who they want working in their factory stores their lives arent valuable enough to have offspring.
@a7 @mewmew @terryenglish @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle Hey, you know how you could stick it to those evil factory owners and reduce abortions at the same time? Support a living minimum wage, or UBI, or something to help lift people out of poverty so they don't feel as pressured to abort the kid.
@dave @mewmew @terryenglish @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle i support those things. I am far left anarcho syndicalist in basically all my beliefs. I am against the death penalty, for public housing, for public child care, against private property.
@a7 @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @dave @shampoobottle The trouble with a UBI is that it will destroy the economy; a whole lot of lower and middle class people won't work if they're getting paid to not work.
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @dave @shampoobottle @a7 So, people who don't work don't get paid under a UBI?
@mewmew @terryenglish @realcaseyrollins @dave @shampoobottle @a7 Wouldn’t this incentivize people to do things that aren’t economical (I.e. work a job that has no economic future instead of learning skills in a less fun environment?) additionally it would create this new layer of government where companies all pay minimum wage and they all lobby to keep the minimum low while rising the UBI
You're confusing UBI with current welfare systems which do have these problems. Under UBI there's no financial reason to not work, as it always benefits you.
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @haxonek @dave @shampoobottle @a7 Not working has benefits too; you get paid.
If you can cut it with $1,000/mo, there's literally no reason not to.
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @haxonek @dave @shampoobottle @a7 I didn't say anything about luxury. I'm just saying, people should make money only if they work for it. Not a big fan of Participation Wages.
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @haxonek @dave @shampoobottle @a7 There's a difference between that and paying people to live, though.
Yes, people shouldn't be allowed to starve. Charities and the government does bear some responsibility for that.
@mewmew @terryenglish @realcaseyrollins @dave @shampoobottle @a7 You can actually live a pretty nice life on 1k a month, in cheap cities/rural parts you can pay mortgage payments of 5-600 a month, have a cheap car, and live basically your whole life on 1k a month. And if you can do that why would you ever work? (I’m saying this because I would never get a real job, I would pursue far-fetched dreams and startups my whole life if I otherwise got 1k a month)
@haxonek @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @dave @shampoobottle @a7 Yeah same.
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @haxonek @dave @shampoobottle @a7 Until you realize that everyone who'd be fine with this level of living won't work, which would be a lot of people, and begin the evaporation of the working class.
@a7 @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle Abortion is the only religious issue mainstream GOP member care about.
I think this is why the Religious Right is viewed as extreme by many; they're the only ones that are still railing against gay marriage.
@realcaseyrollins @mewmew @terryenglish @shampoobottle marriage shouldnt be a government issue at all, but since it is i think homosexuals deserve the right to marry and live their lives as they please with equal benefits and protections. Ill probably end up with a boy wife heavily drinking in a trailer park one day.
@a7 @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, but at the same time I still think members of a non-traditional relationship should be able to form an equivalent union. I don't think there's a way to do so that would satisfy them, tho.
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7 Really? The policies? I would argue, more like their motives.
But I could see that, for those who want gay sex, sodomy, adultery, etc. banned
@mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish I dunno, some, a lot of democrat voters use to be catholic before abortion stuff
@a7 @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish if someone is anti-abortion but pro-sex ed, contraception, and for universal healthcare, then I don’t think they are hypocritical. that’s my position. nearly no one likes abortion
@mewmew
Not hypocritical.
Just not very bright. A woman has a right to choose. Not all women who become pregnant want to be pregnant. Its their choice. Using a wire coat-hanger is extremely dangerous and this is not 1830.
A real man should be able to accept that and move on.
Also there are enough people on this planet. In fact it could do with a lot less for a functional societies moving forward.
(No we don't think the virus is good).
@dsfgs @mewmew @terryenglish @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle yes i am a beta cuck and i love beating women 
but your last point is wrong, cause we are no where near over population and breeding naturally goes down if you reduce poverty.
Outside of cases where the mother is likely going to lose her life, and outside of instances where she didn't consent, it seems rather...strange, to have a view that harming others is okay to get out of the consequences of your actions.
@kick
The woman cannot be compelled to continue to form a person inside her.
Basically it sounds like you are saying that a person cannot express their love or affection in a sexual way (ie. #sexuality) without risking being burdened with raising a #child, likely destroying her plans for her life and adding to the 80 million of #unwantedBirths on a #fragileEcosystem at breaking point.
We use hashtags for valuable searchability, yes.
@dsfgs
Well if she's started, she should be. That's like saying she shouldn't be compelled to provide for a child she doesn't want; a child being unable to live on its own is no excuse to kill it. Neither is not wanting it.
It's also important to distinguish #Abortion from #contraception; they are both forms of #birthcontrol, but are vastly different.
#prolife #prodeath #prochoice #murder #infanticide #humanrights #womensrights (for searchability)
@kick @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7
This is mainly just a morality thing then. Given that nobody's found a great way to represent objective morality yet, I suppose this is pretty pointless (like an American arguing with a Nazi, it really does no good in the end; when faced with fundamentally-different belief systems, all debate is pointless).
Hashtags are incredibly pointless and very obnoxious, though, so I will advise you to stop using them.
@realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @mewmew @terryenglish there is the abortion issue, but while im extremely far left and could be described a socialist i dont like abortion so i agree with them there.