@mewmew The Republican party is milquetoast as fuck in most regards, except for some holdover religous issues that no one actually cares about anymore. @terryenglish @a7
@shampoobottle @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @a7 Not even a lot of those lol
Ain't no Republicans talking about gay marriage nowadays
@realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @mewmew @terryenglish there is the abortion issue, but while im extremely far left and could be described a socialist i dont like abortion so i agree with them there.
@a7 @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle Abortion is the only religious issue mainstream GOP member care about.
I think this is why the Religious Right is viewed as extreme by many; they're the only ones that are still railing against gay marriage.
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7 Really? The policies? I would argue, more like their motives.
But I could see that, for those who want gay sex, sodomy, adultery, etc. banned
@mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish I dunno, some, a lot of democrat voters use to be catholic before abortion stuff
@a7 @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish if someone is anti-abortion but pro-sex ed, contraception, and for universal healthcare, then I don’t think they are hypocritical. that’s my position. nearly no one likes abortion
@mewmew
Not hypocritical.
Just not very bright. A woman has a right to choose. Not all women who become pregnant want to be pregnant. Its their choice. Using a wire coat-hanger is extremely dangerous and this is not 1830.
A real man should be able to accept that and move on.
Also there are enough people on this planet. In fact it could do with a lot less for a functional societies moving forward.
(No we don't think the virus is good).
@dsfgs @mewmew @terryenglish @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle yes i am a beta cuck and i love beating women 
but your last point is wrong, cause we are no where near over population and breeding naturally goes down if you reduce poverty.
Outside of cases where the mother is likely going to lose her life, and outside of instances where she didn't consent, it seems rather...strange, to have a view that harming others is okay to get out of the consequences of your actions.
@kick
The woman cannot be compelled to continue to form a person inside her.
Basically it sounds like you are saying that a person cannot express their love or affection in a sexual way (ie. #sexuality) without risking being burdened with raising a #child, likely destroying her plans for her life and adding to the 80 million of #unwantedBirths on a #fragileEcosystem at breaking point.
We use hashtags for valuable searchability, yes.
@dsfgs
Well if she's started, she should be. That's like saying she shouldn't be compelled to provide for a child she doesn't want; a child being unable to live on its own is no excuse to kill it. Neither is not wanting it.
It's also important to distinguish #Abortion from #contraception; they are both forms of #birthcontrol, but are vastly different.
#prolife #prodeath #prochoice #murder #infanticide #humanrights #womensrights (for searchability)
@kick @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7
@a7
What even is the point of that picture lol
Is it trying to deny that a fetus has its own body?
@dsfgs @kick @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle
@realcaseyrollins @dsfgs @kick @mewmew @terryenglish @shampoobottle no its just a meme
This is mainly just a morality thing then. Given that nobody's found a great way to represent objective morality yet, I suppose this is pretty pointless (like an American arguing with a Nazi, it really does no good in the end; when faced with fundamentally-different belief systems, all debate is pointless).
Hashtags are incredibly pointless and very obnoxious, though, so I will advise you to stop using them.
@mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish well a lot of Catholics support those things, they just find abortion that abhorrent they think simply opposing that is the lesser of the two evils. Most catholics are against trump’s hard line on immigration and treatment of social services.
@mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish see cant even broach the subject with out being declared sexist.
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7 I don't like baby killing...guess I'm just a sexist who wants to control women because...I forget why I'm just mean, okay!!
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7
@mewmew @kick @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish they are right though you should look into 1960s catholics. They were a big part of the civil rights movement, bishops speaking out helped a bit and many christian groups marched with people. MLK himself was a pastor.
Even southern Catholics were fairly left-wing for...religious people living in the southern United States during the 1950s and 1960s. Unlike many denominations, Catholics didn't have whites-only churches during that time, though things of course weren't perfect.
Plenty of people forget that Catholics were integrating schools as early as the 1950s, _in the south._
@a7 @mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish When you consider, too, that the largest wave of Catholicism to hit the States was almost exclusively on behalf of a racial minority’s (the Irish) arrival to the Union, it becomes more obvious why they were hated, discriminated against, and driven further than most to left-wing views (and that’s leaving out that left-wing views are effectively what the Vatican and Catholic teachings required up until the last couple of Popes).
@kick @mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish books from pre-modern nondenominational thought also were very ‘socialist’, tolstoy wrote ‘the kingdom of god is within’ which was basically the christians communist manifesto. Quakers as well a long history of non violence, anti-racism and social support. I feel like christianity plays a very large part in allowing thoughts on freedom and viewing every man as your brother to care for.
@kick @mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish *plays a large part in allowing thoughts like those to develop
@a7 @mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish Tolstoy was hyper-Orthodox, though I don’t really think it’s fair to describe The Kingdom of God Is Within You as communist; I think it might be a fair observation to describe some of his later works as, say, Georgist, but I don’t really think he ever got particularly into communism.
Quakers are awesome.
I think Christianity has mostly lost its way past 1970, but historically I’d agree.
@kick @mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_anarchism
Basically described syndicalism but with the guiding christian morals as people saw it with viewing the church as corrupting mans individual understanding of god.
End game communism and syndicalism fall fairly close in line.
@kick @mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish they still speak of divorce as not an option with in the teachings, but the congregates dont seem to pay much attention to the teachings, they are more willing to give annulments after reviewing things like domestic abuse and mental illness. I feel like the priest and bishops have a much different understanding of the religion that they seemingly have lost the ability to impart in recent years. That led to the conservative catholic, a mix of culture and other things. A large amount of immigrant support and legal help is provided by churches, food kitchens and homeless shelters.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/13/pope-endorsement-softens-stance-on-divorced-catholics
@kick @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7 I'm not Catholic or super knowledgeable in their theology but I would like to add that in Christianity, abuse is grounds for divorce.
Modern variants of 'Christianity' aren't particularly adhering to anything resembling the Christian faith.
@kick @mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7
@realcaseyrollins @kick @mewmew @terryenglish @shampoobottle only if they force you to sin basically right before that 7:14 : For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the believing wife; and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the believing husband: otherwise your children should be unclean; but now they are holy. (DRA)
Put in context, it makes a point of the polar opposite of what the site is using it to imply. I'm not sure which translation you find most honest, but here's a site that allows you to flip between them:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians+7%3A10-15
@kick
Thanks, I use NKJV.
How is it different than what the article suggests?
@mewmew @terryenglish@blob.cat @shampoobottle @a7
@mewmew @realcaseyrollins @shampoobottle @terryenglish i dunno, you gotta understand that they view it as a murder - a policy that takes millions of lives a year
