@realcaseyrollins sanger was a eugenicist. I don't particularly like her. however she had some interesting points if you look at it from a feminist perspective. forcing birth on a woman is slavery of the body and the mind. therefore neither the woman nor the child is free from the forced nature of their interaction

@Ox True; but forced pregnancies only happen in the case of rape, since the woman consents to the sex.

Saying that consenting to sex doesn't mean consenting to a pregnancy is akin to saying my consent to eat a Taki is apart from my consent to have a flaming butthole.

I mean, it's not like other duties aren't forced on parents; they are forced to feed their children, too.

@realcaseyrollins I know we have radically different views on this. you as a Christian male and I as a radical feminist woman.
it's impossible for us to reach agreement on this issue. i accept that.


aside, the comparison of growing, giving birth to, and nurturing a child for 18 years to taking a shit is just inappropriate. it simply doesn't convey the mammoth physical, emotional and financial task of child raising. your definition of forced pregnancy - also ignores those who use birth control and it goes awry, women diagnosed infertile who conceive unexpectedly, and many other situations. not to mention women pressured into having children by partners and family because of societal roles

@Ox This is largely generally fair. I didn't mean to compare having a hot bottom to birth by way of magnitude, but only in the realm of consent and risk. Sex kinda tends to lead to pregnancy sometimes, and that is a risk that one takes when having sex. As you rightly point out, non-abortive forms of birth control don't work 100%, which too is a risk one takes.

It's my personal belief that one doesn't have a moral obligation to be pro-life if you don't think a fetus is a human being, so I'd be fine to agree to disagree on that.

@realcaseyrollins "ignorance or accident" interesting. What was planned parenthood created for? Was it created for women's empowerment? I think that "free race" quote there is the tell.

How many young ladies did they sterilize? That isn't in that picture there.

Couple planned parenthood with something, make it a word and a blow... ah I know. The ignorant, accidental people, we will offer them free housing but only IF they have children without fathers. Very lady and tiger, no?

Now, we will give them a Christian sect that believes only in abstinence and neither in contraceptives or the pill. Fill the mens heads, already weakened by the culture they are surrounded by, fill them with cheap booze and weed smoke. Give them that jamaican ginger pimp limp, take away their good will and ability to think for themselves. Ah, there, you see... the mothers get younger, so that they stay with their mothers! Less apartments to build!

Now something must be done with all of these bucks, yes? Laws. We will make marijuana a schedule 1 substance and give it minimum prison sentences... no not enough. The guns, as well, minimum sentence. Hmmm... now build gun stores and liquor stores every 3 blocks. Good. Now they can go to prison and make us some real money.

Before planned parenthood, black marriage rates were comparable to white marriage rates and children were born with both parents and some hope.

You say, Rogers, you are a fascist. You should love this bitch. I say no. This type of disgusting trickery is not my style. It is evil and manipulative and I leave that to the Sangers of the world.

Fuck planned parenthood and that fucking psychopath Herr Sanger.



https://concernedwomen.org/the-negro-project-margaret-sangers-eugenic-plan-for-black-americans/

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Planned Parenthood continues to target black American babies' lives to eliminate. The stats are shocking.

This is systemic racism, is it not? How can one support that and value all black lives?

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