Apparently my parents can't afford this lovely mini fridge
Can't say I'm surprised lol we ain't rich
@realcaseyrollins Why do you need a mini fridge? lol
@Korsier Cuz when I'm at college I drink soda all the time and I like that stuff cold haha
@realcaseyrollins I thought you lived with your parents. What do you study?
@Korsier I live with my parents, but only during the summer
I'm currently studying IT management
@realcaseyrollins Anything in IT is a good career. Make sure you pick up some technical skills so you know what everyone's talking about.
@Korsier Yep! I'm working on that, I got a friend who got into IT without a degree just by taking a bunch of certs and I wanna try and do some of those either in the winter or next summer
@realcaseyrollins Certs are hard but are a good way to get your foot in the door. Also, just from experience, everybody talks agile but a lot of the projects I've been on are more like "waterjile".
@realcaseyrollins Yeah I'm ancient. Been doing IT for twenty years.
@realcaseyrollins Started with building websites back in the late nineties.
@Korsier Whoa!! That's super cool!! I actually started programming in HTML & JavaScript, moved on to Python, then got into IT
@realcaseyrollins I started with Classic ASP back in the day. Do mostly ASP.NET/MVC/Razor/MMSQL now. Some side projects on PHP/MySQL. And trying to stay up to date with all the JS frameworks.
@Korsier Fancy, fancy! I need to learn PHP sometime
@realcaseyrollins I think PHP is actually pretty good to learn web on because it doesn't try to hide the underlying model with its own abstraction the way .net and some of the other frameworks do, and it's fairly easy to learn. Not as popular as it used to be though.
@Korsier Not as popular, but I'm sure it works! 😎😏
Yeah I hate .NET but I had to do it last year for a class
@realcaseyrollins I like .Net with MVC/Razor, but the older ASPX was over-complicated imho. I spent more time debugging than developing. With PHP you need good code discipline or it's really easy to write spaghetti.
@Korsier Well, I actually do enjoy it when there are specific rules for the code so I would appreciate that!
@Korsier
I started with front end web then PHP my freshman year from my dorm room...not a CS degree, but a Bible focused degree at a fairly small but somewhat well known Christian college. Still no degree in programming or CS, but I now lead a team of software developers and have been doing this full time professionally for a lot of years now.
For me to get past front end, it just took an unwise commitment, before there were platforms to do this, to build an ecommerce website for a record label...in 2 weeks, not having ever done back end development before. Found an open source PHP starting point, and delivered a findings) functional ecommerce website in 2 weeks....got no sleep, but learned PHP. :)
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@SecondJon @realcaseyrollins That's often the best way to learn, just jump in to something. Sure you'll make mistakes, but you'll learn heaps, and your next project will be much better.
@Korsier
Yes, I still find jumping in is a great way to learn new skills.
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I try to do it in a way that let's me get sleep now...but still haven't mastered that.
@SecondJon @realcaseyrollins I have a day job to go to so I'm always keeping an eye on that bedtime clock.
@Korsier Do you work in IT? It sounds like you're speaking from experience.