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@ArdainianRight There's a point at which user friendly (good, necessary) becomes retard friendly (don't, very bad, plz avoid) @MoeBritannica

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@wolfbro @ArdainianRight @MoeBritannica
User friendly: The computer does what I expect it to do when I tell it to do something, or fails in a graceful and informative way so I know what went wrong.

Retard friendly: The computer does everything for me according to factory-set instructions. I have no control unless I heavily modify the device at risk of permanently damaging it.

Of course, literally every manufacturer has unfortunately decided to go with option 2. :reimu_sigh:

@Giganova8
>the computer does what I expect it to when I tell it to do something
and doesn't pull this genie "haha, I did *exactly* what you said, but not what you wanted" shit that older computers used to. (Yes, I am a zoomie, but I used Win95 as well.)
>and informative way so I know what went wrong
This part is especially important.
Enough of this "oopsie woopsie, we did a fucky wucky" nonsense, give me a fucking error message I can search so I can find out what the fuck happened. Modern stuff doing this is fucking stupid.
@ArdainianRight @MoeBritannica

@wolfbro @ArdainianRight @MoeBritannica I feel an enormously powerful urge to commit federal crimes everytime I see those “cute” error messages shit like Discord throws out.

“Oopsie, looks like the office gnomes misplaced your heckin wholesome content!” - :soy:

Yeah, I’m sure they’ll find it real quick when I set your server room on fire you insufferable shitstain. :nacho_disgust:

And it’s all done because some drooling retard will have a shitfit if he sees strange, arcane numbers and letters, or worse, a request to file a bug report (shock! horror! :noa_shock: ). So everyone with any level of capability has to suffer because these “people” weren’t gatekept away from tech. :a_disgust:

@Giganova8
Oh, so, I have a story relating to that.
I do tech stuff for a huge year-round equipped campsite, nice place, pay is alright for the area, I mostly answer phones and dick around with the logs and things.

Anyway, the fucker wanted me to put 404 as "you were sent on a snipe hunt"

I told him we are putting "this page can't be found" like a normal fucking website because this isn't Scout Camp, this is a website where people want to book campsites, not be bullied by some asshole scoutmaster.
@ArdainianRight @MoeBritannica

@wolfbro @ArdainianRight @MoeBritannica
And the only thing more infuriating is the good old standby of "blank loading screen with no indication of activity". :hana_disgust:

Is it doing something? Is it working? Is it waiting for something else to happen? Deleting everything on the disk? Crashed silently and locked up the whole system and now I have to powercycle the whole damn computer? Who knows! It is a Mystery~ :yuudachi_tired:

@Kyonko802
Few things annoy me more than such intentionally vague things like that.
"Wait a while"
How long? Hours? Minutes? Days? @ArdainianRight @Giganova8 @MoeBritannica

@Giganova8
>blank loading screen with no indication of activity
Spin the wheel of "what fucked up this time?" If you're lucky, you won't lose your everything!
@ArdainianRight @MoeBritannica

@wolfbro @ArdainianRight @MoeBritannica
Or even better, the old standby of "I did something and the whole program instantly closed with no error message and nothing in the logfiles."

Oh boy! I get to spend several hours trying to first reproduce the bug, and then find the right selection of arcane Google keywords to lead me to a fix! Just what I wanted to do today! :vomit:

Bonus points for the only reference to your bug being an ancient forum post with the guy who posted the bug replying to himself a day later saying "Nvm, fixed". :miku_anger:

@Giganova8
I once had to completely powerwash my computer because of something like this. Because for some godforsaken reason, some part of Debian Testing (not Sid, fuck that) decided it just wanted to ruin my fucking day.
Bonus: IT WAS DURING EXAM WEEK, MY BACKUP HAD MY FIRST DRAFT AND NOT THE FINAL ESSAY COPY!
@ArdainianRight @MoeBritannica

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