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-Whitelists Google and Facebook trackers
-BAT is centralized (done through a middleman service, Uphold)
-Auto updates by default

You can make it more privacy respecting with a few configurations but to me, it's just a crypto-mining scam. I prefer LibreWolf.

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@xianc78 @sjw @parker
The whitelist is because Facebook, etc., would be completely broken otherwise. And it's targeting privacy for normies, which obviously can't be as effective as someone fine tuning every setting themselves.

Everyone agrees uphold is shit, though being a U.S. company their hands are tied on a lot of the crypto stuff, KYC requirements and the like. Regardless, it'll be nice when on-chain tipping is implemented.
@xianc78 @sjw @parker @parker
- Whitelists Google and Facebook trackers. Where is your proof?
- BAT Is centralized, well it is still money. Pays more than any other browser
- Auto updates by default. Settings can be disabled. You can even disable the whole crypto thing and the ad blocker.

It isn't a scam if it actually works. It is better than what most people use (firefox and chrome). Saying that stuff tracks you is easy. Pretty much every browser does according to most. While it is often the case Brave is still one of the browsers with the least trackers according to academic researchers. Web render engines are flawed to start with. You shouldn't use browser for "privacy".

I know 4chan isn't a great reference, but this thread has some interesting info about those trackers: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/82696586
@xianc78 @parker @parker @sjw I am not here to stop you from using something else though. Use what you like. I get that Brave did some sketchy stuff before.

@RobinWils @parker@brave.cafe @parker@leafposter.club @sjw@neckbeard.xyz I honestly don't trust any browser at the moment. None of them are truly independent from the Google/Mozilla duopoly with the only exception being PaleMoon (using a fork of Gecko) but Moonchild has been blacklisting add-ons for moralfag reasons among other things.

@xianc78 @parker @parker @sjw Oh, I totally agree with that, but it is not just browsers the whole web thing has always been pretty flawed.

If you want privacy though, just get a rock with no functionality at all. Convenience is useful for most people. Security is important until you reach some point. I do find GNUnet interesting for example (new OSI model), but will companies adopt it?

Hackers likely won't go for someone with a generated password or something, unless they have a zeroday, which you barely can defend against anyways. Besides that, they likely will target Windows first.

@xianc78 @RobinWils @parker @sjw A lot of people need to start being as autistic as this guy regarding JS.

@parker @xianc78 @parker @sjw Eh, I don't think that boycotting often works. It isn't hard to make something like that, but I am not gonna do that.

Anyways, I do like the privacy mindset. I am just no longer that version of me anymore. Respect to the people who make everything so secure that they lose time and convenience though.
@xianc78 @sjw @parker
Also, auto-update by default seems to not be the case anymore. I just use the base install and am getting this right now.
@parker @xianc78 @parker @sjw Eh, in my opinion. It does not matter what people use. Browsers are all pretty alike (based on the same stuff like mentioned here before). Sure, some are slightly better than others.

Just use what you enjoy. I am not saying no to free BAT personally. (I wouldn't trust the Tor function though)
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