@p FSF is dead to me, I'm sure many will agree.
@Xalef @p What do you mean? They fired RMS ages ago over fake bullshit, unless he's back in his original position after all that proved him innocent, I want nothing to do with FSF. A bunch of groups signed a letter that essentially forced RMS out, but I think he was (is?) back in a lesser position.

Here's the letter that forced his firing:
https://rms-open-letter.github.io/

Here's the letter that supports him:
https://rms-support-letter.github.io/

Some notable groups that had members sign the letter forcing him out:

Debian Project, GNOME Foundation, OSI, Creative Commons, Freedom of the Press Foundation, Framasoft, Mozilla, The HardenedBSD Foundation, SUSE, Riseup Networks, X.org Foundation, The FreeDOS Project, Tor Project, others.
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> Some notable groups that had members sign the letter forcing him out:
> [corporations, corporate-owned consortiums, corporate/government-backed projects]

Another excuse to post this image. (Also Riseup is CIA, mark my words.)
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@Xalef @coyote Discard everything they have ever said and just look at what they do. It's a honeypot for ancoms: free email service, free VPN. If the feds weren't already inside it, they'd be on their way, it's too juicy a target. Also funded by the NED, which is a known CIA cutout.
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@p @coyote @Xalef They even lied about not giving data to the FBI (they gave in once).

I was never aligned with their beliefs but I used to use their VPN service (it was free and it didn't require an invite) and it is probably one of my biggest regrets.

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@coyote @p @cee @Xalef Well, you still have to check the VPS host and make sure they don't log anything. Plus, you won't get the benefits of having multiple servers/locations to choose from.

@xianc78 @p @cee @Xalef yep, so better to use Tor but the connection speed is shitty
@coyote @xianc78 @Xalef @cee Way faster than it used to be now that the CIA has added all those spy nodes. :terrylol2:

The only problem is they'll try to make you click the boats, but you don't miss anything by just closing the tab when asked to click boats.
@p @coyote @cee @xianc78 @Xalef

“Finally a computer problem we can actually solve by throwing money at it.”

@cee @coyote @p @Xalef Luckily, it was only brief and I never used it for anything shady. It was the only free VPN I knew of that ran entirely off of donations (there was also SigaVPN but it was shut down due to lack of donors). I only assume that they didn't collect any data because they never banned me for promoting anarcho-capitalism while using their VPN.

Either way, their VPN service sucks. The server is chosen at random and every single on of them is slow. Their client also lacks a killswitch, so if it disconnects, you risk leaking shit. And I really hate the constant donation reminder it gives you.

If you can't/don't want to pay for a VPN, just use Tor or I2P, preferably the latter since many nodes have been exposed as honeypots lately. I2P supposedly uses a P2P model which remedies this somewhat.

@xianc78 I only use Riseup VPN for torrenting, to be honest. Never given me any troubles. The FBI can handle all the copyright violation letters they want

@lethe I don't think the FBI gives a fuck about that. Hell, people download ROMs all the time using they're bare ISP and they never get caught. But I think using a VPN (even a shitty one like RiseUp) for anything P2P is a good idea, otherwise you are exposing your IP address to every other peer on the network and torrenting through Tor isn't recommended.

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