@xianc78 ford v dodge had very far reaching consequences

@icedquinn @xianc78 ford vs dodge is the american version of that chinese suit that ruled if you assist someone who's injured you assume all responsibility for their wellbeing

There's been a lot of propaganda too that supports waste products being dumped into our food supply. People really believe putting Fluoride salts (industrial waste products) somehow strengthens teeth. I knew one guy who even said it was the cheapest thing we could do for poor kids dental health.

But the trouble is, those people who have been taught to believe the religion of fluoride will not be willing to even entertain the idea they could be wrong, and Orange Fascists + Scratchy Voice Anti-Vaxer supporting the idea that maybe we shouldn't be putting medication directly in the water supply just re-enforces that religious belief that they are the ones who are trying to kill us all ...

@djsumdog @xianc78 they hired a master spin doctor to sell flouride. forgot his name, but he was involved with some other stuff too.

its because flouride does have demonstrated positive effects on dentin. topically, temporarily. every dental product says DO NOT INGEST CALL POISON CONTROL.

@djsumdog @xianc78 the aluminum industry however produces industrial amounts of flouride waste products and they found a way to make it a profit center (via bullshitting) instead of a cost center (through storage disposal)

All of this talk of flouride makes me miss CVCVCV

@icedquinn @djsumdog @xianc78 Iv'e seen ppl claim they can tell where someone is from based off their teeth bc of how much flouride is in the water in CA

@teratology @djsumdog @xianc78 there are CA cities where they poisoned people yeah. the ordinance said the furthest point has to reach some amount, so the inner city is overflouridated to compensate.

excess flouride *causes* tooth rot, but the dentists make bank so who cares.

@teratology @djsumdog @xianc78 this is all irrelevant because a single dose of a GMO bacteria permanently prevents carries, or biannual doses of nanosilver flouride.

@icedquinn @djsumdog @xianc78 @teratology
And how cheap are these treatments? Do you support these being offered as free healthcare (as in paid with your tax money)? Do you support these treatments becoming mandatory? (cause otherwise I foresee a lot of people not going to the dentist to get them, even if they're free).

@alyx @djsumdog @xianc78 @teratology

(four thieves vinegar)

@alyx @djsumdog @teratology @xianc78 so about 7$ to inhibit carries for about six months.

every israeli citizen had more spent on them than that in free bombs to murder people with this year.

@icedquinn @djsumdog @xianc78
> every dental product says DO NOT INGEST CALL POISON CONTROL.
That's because
1) toothpaste has other stuff in it besides fluoride, that are likely significantly more harmful
2) toothpaste has a higher concentration of fluoride than water does, so it's not as safe to ingest as tap water
3) it's their lawyer approved messaging so that they won't get sued if you do ingest toothpaste and get an unforeseen reaction.

In massive amounts, sure fluoride is gonna be bad, just like everything else. And I've heard it recommended by fluoride advocates that it's a good idea to look for unfluorided toothpaste for children, because tap water will already have plenty and if they accidentally ingest some toothpaste (which children are more likely to do), they could go into overdose zone. Though I think the child needs to be extra toothpaste hungry for it to actually have some effect. But it's one of those "better safe than sorry" situations.

As far as I'm concerned the fluoride fear is overblown. Worst case scenario, compare your tap water concentration to what other European countries are doing, and if you're an outlier with a much higher dose (I've heard some people say this is the case for USA), advocate for a reduction.

@alyx @djsumdog @xianc78 it's not overblown. they've repeatedly demonstrated brain damage at the regular amounts water treatment plants dump in to the water.

they literally blocked another inquest demonstrating this just during the biden admin

@djsumdog @icedquinn @xianc78 with the nonstop lying and fraud coming out of the medical industry, at this point it's worth reconsidering our previously held assumptions of what's safe and effective vs what's a scam at best and dangerous at worst. if they've been fudging the data for the past couple decades, why not the previous few decades too?

@skylar @djsumdog @xianc78 it's not up to academia. flouridation is a political issue.

it's been proven repeatedly that it makes people stupid and compliant. the biden admin's "health admiral" explicitly told the latest research group that proof flouride causes retardation was "harmful to flouridation efforts"

@skylar @djsumdog @xianc78 basically same ole thing, R&D knows and everyone else cherry picks.

The world did get rid of leaded gas eventually.

@djsumdog @icedquinn @xianc78 not in aviation!

@skylar @djsumdog @xianc78 ah god wasn't there a whole thing where the exhaust from leaded gas was making people stupid

@skylar @djsumdog @xianc78 i don't know if its relevant but lead poisoning makes you stupid but hostile and highly violent. flouride poisoning makes you docile.

@icedquinn @djsumdog @xianc78 this is why they took our lead paint chips, so we can't eat them to counteract the fluoride

@icedquinn @djsumdog @xianc78 @skylar we call them the baby boomers

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@skylar @icedquinn @djsumdog @xianc78 The problem with being skeptical of certain medical practices is that you will inevitability find yourself in the company of crackpots and grifters. There are reasonable things to be wary of in the modern, chemical and microplastic-laden foodscape, for example, but it has a habit of getting lost in the autistic screeching of people who believe in medbeds, raw water, and chugging Ivermectin by the bucketload.

I think SSRIs are in the range of totally worthless to causing way more problems than they're suppose to solve. They should have fallen out of use decades ago.

At the same time, one of my best friends needs an anti-psychotic. One pill allows him to keep a job, keep his friends, be a functional member of society and not have the sheriff called on him. He was off his meds for a few months and it was not a fun time. He fully apologized to everyone; defending nothing of what he did. He remembered doing all of it and felt terrible for being off his gourd.

So yea, I agree. Throwing everything out can be a disaster. We don't have any real informed choice or consent for what does work, why it works and what doesn't.

SSRIs made me barely able to feel anything but numb and empty most the time.

Same. There's a documentary called I Am Fishhead (2011) that talks about SSRIs and how that numb feeling is eerily similar to the normal state of most psychopaths.

@djsumdog @icedquinn @xianc78 @skylar @cowanon @H_A_Copington that month on it sucked ass

@djsumdog @icedquinn @xianc78 @skylar @cowanon @H_A_Copington psychopaths are at least motivated to do stuff

@djsumdog @icedquinn @skylar @H_A_Copington I think the real solution is to get the right amount of vitamins in. Vitamin B6 + Magnesium can produce serotonin naturally.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33864354/

@xianc78 there was no evidence that a shortage of serotonin was the problem.

@djsumdog @skylar @H_A_Copington

@xianc78 @H_A_Copington @djsumdog @skylar it may be proven that some people have positive outcomes from overloading receptors with SSRI, but there was never an indication we should have tried it

@xianc78 @djsumdog @icedquinn @skylar @H_A_Copington in terms of magnesium, green vegetables are the best source like lettuce and broccoli.

@tinosoft @icedquinn @djsumdog @xianc78 @H_A_Copington but where do we get it from meat and animal products?

i've started taking a magnesium supplement for sleep and it seems to be helping, and it really kickstarts the dream factory. like every night, multiple dreams. it's nice.

@skylar @icedquinn @djsumdog @tinosoft @H_A_Copington I think the only meats that are rich in magnesium are fish, and said fish need to be rich in fat.

Studies are fraud, models are fraud but there are a few who are doing a serious review by subject and flippin adore Midwest Doctor.. she's a good egg who reads it all and explains in ways that educate & empower.. the SSRI category always triggers my mother hen gene.. nasty stuff criminal enterprise heartbreaking <3 https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-evidence-ssri-antidepressants

@skylar @icedquinn @djsumdog @xianc78 The medical community thought this was good idea for a few decades.

@djsumdog @icedquinn The rise of the anti-fluoride movement has been going on for a while now, even before Trump appointed RFK. There have been fluoride lawsuits going on for the past few years. Derrick Broze has been covering some of the lawsuits.

https://theconsciousresistance.com/?s=fluoride

Luckily, I have been using a fluoride filter jug from Epic for almost a year now.

@icedquinn @xianc78 The the dunning-krugers at lesswrong call this the paperclip maximization problem.