Is there a single school, college, or university left that doesn't rely on Microsoft or Google for emails, calender, etc?
@xianc78 Outise the US, most public school utilize gov run platforms (But still rely on MS for OS/Office or Google for OS/Other services), but at least most critical info is on whatever platform their govs run.
Inside the US, no, those corporations have captured everything.
They would never use free software, because they can't sign contracts or draw guarantees from free software organizations. Besides, most school technicians are not trained into it.
I still remember a lab technician (Early 2010s) struggling to make VLC work on all computer lab computers (And she still never managed to)
Inside the US, no, those corporations have captured everything.
They would never use free software, because they can't sign contracts or draw guarantees from free software organizations. Besides, most school technicians are not trained into it.
I still remember a lab technician (Early 2010s) struggling to make VLC work on all computer lab computers (And she still never managed to)
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@vokainen099 My Dad works in public education. The distract he worked for switched to Gmail a decade ago because of some law that required emails to be stored on their servers for 7 years and they didn't have the infrastructure to handle that.
@xianc78 @vokainen099 they didn't have a $500 raid array for mailboxes? when goolag keels over i'm just gonna laugh at everything collapsing
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@wowaname @vokainen099 @xianc78 yeah schools being able to afford 200 macs, 400 PCs, a dozen carts full of chromebooks, etc. but not being able to hold emails for 7 years seems a little weird to me.
@beardalaxy @vokainen099 @xianc78 it would 100% lower the budget required compared to renting gsuite on a contract
@wowaname @xianc78 Or it would have taken months to get the contract going, and in the meantime they would have been in the wrong, legally-wise.
Probably they just threw the towel
Also, those 100s of PCs are bought in batches with discounts
Edit: Also google anti-spam practices requiring DKIM and things like that
Probably they just threw the towel
Also, those 100s of PCs are bought in batches with discounts
Edit: Also google anti-spam practices requiring DKIM and things like that
@vokainen099 @xianc78 dkim is set-and-forget especially when automated and done correctly (something even gmail refuses to do, last time i checked) so you're paying one sysadmin to get it running in a month's time and giving the rest of the nerds instructions on how to maintain shit if (if) it breaks
@wowaname @xianc78 Never tried it myself, but I've heard lots of (Inexperienced) mail server admins that DKIM just refuses to work sometimes. Of course, it may just be they didn't know what they were doing.
But, from a business perspective, school boards would just offshore everything to google to get whatever full package discount they can get (And maybe pocket the difference)
We reason as technologists, they reason (Badly) as businessmen
And, if something happens, they can offshore legal inquiries at google. Can't do that with free software.
But, from a business perspective, school boards would just offshore everything to google to get whatever full package discount they can get (And maybe pocket the difference)
We reason as technologists, they reason (Badly) as businessmen
And, if something happens, they can offshore legal inquiries at google. Can't do that with free software.
@vokainen099 @xianc78 opendkim couldn't have been made much simpler to set up, in my experience. idk what enterprise crap everyone else uses, but if it's more complicated, idk what to tell them other than their priorities suck
@vokainen099 @xianc78 which is why i don't even want to participate, and nobody irl understands why i choose poverty over it. i'm not gonna stress myself out swimming up the river, though, when i know my way is sustainable
@vokainen099 @xianc78 but nobody listens to my way cus they're averse to change. nothing gets done. so, let's pray those people go bankrupt, idgaf anymore
It probably was a gift to keep those corporations afloat, since it was easy to guess schools would be forced to rely on their services most of the time (Alas, transfer public money to them)
Email in particular, even if they had the infrastructure, it probably wouldn't work because of all those antispam safeguards google is enforcing