Self-hosting pleroma.
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@S-Config@core.s-config.com i rarely use bluesky even though i have it set up.
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@S-Config@core.s-config.com Or at the least the old twitter crowd.
You have no reason to sign up for it if you're not banned from Twitter, your interactions/chance of being seen is lower, everyone I know crossposts anyway, and it lacks basic features Fedi has. It only has the userbase it does because a so called decentralized fandom and the mastosoc (NPR listening) tier libs set up shop there.
>You have no reason to sign up for it if you're not banned from Twitter
false, i left twitter not due to being banned (my account became reinstated at some point) but due to the fact that musk thought X should stand for XSS. a spam DM auto-redirected me to a third-party website without my intervention so i immediately noped out of it
>lacks basic features Fedi has.
not doubting you, but which features? i mean, fedi is notorious for making its own mistakes with regard to user-facing features, not even mentioning the stability and compatibility issues from certain things over the years. some of this shit has always been confusing to new users
@wowaname @Milo @PurpCat @S-Config I'm afraid that you can't have that kind of culture on a decentralized network in this political climate (which I don't think is going to change anytime soon). The only way you can have it is on a centralized network with moderation to keep all the political posters, blackpillers, etc out.
For example, there are a couple of imageboards and textboards out there that strive to be more comfy instead of complaining about how much they hate the world, but those admins realized that they either need to sacrifice freeze-peach and/or be relatively obscure in order to keep it that way.
The fediverse has neither of that going for it. Yes, there are more laid-back instances on here that try to replicate that pre-2014 experience, but it is inevitable that users get dogpiled by Poast and NCD users who think they own the network. You could also just have an isolated, webring-like network of whitelist instances, but that kind of defeats the purpose of decentralization in the first place. You might as well just have a Ning site.
@wowaname @Milo @PurpCat @S-Config
>4chan i still regularly see plenty of people mature enough to ignore all that and save the threads with useful contributions anyway. hopefully that makes more sense. it isn't so much the moderation, it's the community's temperament. fedi has always eaten one another alive; we're schismatic and that's a shame
The difference here is that we have likes, reblogs, follows, blocks, etc and it's much easier to post a short meme and get a bunch of those than it is to make an effort post. On imageboards, all you have are (You)s and everyone is completely anonymous so nobody is building any positive or negative reputation (unless you make it obvious that all your posts are coming from the same person).
Microblogging is basically the polar opposite of imageboards. Everyone has accounts, followers, blocks, etc and therefore has a reputation. This enables personality cults and constantly picking sides. It also doesn't help that many people who came here after 2021 were on sites where such behavior was encouraged (like KiwiFarms). Part of the reason why I hate most Poast users is that they are the types that were spending most of their Internet time watching MisterMetokur videos back in the 2010s, so they've surrounded themselves with people who like to make lolcows out of those they disagree with or who they think are weaker than them.
@PurpCat @Milo @S-Config @wowaname It will always anger me that the indie game scene is the epicenter of this behavior. A lot (if not most) people just want to see the imaginary worlds that they've been dreaming since childhood come to reality and probably never envisioned getting into such drama.
Though I'm not familiar with this game so I have no side to pick on this one.
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage/
In particular; it's because rage and drama and arguing breed interactions; especially with the right demographic for this.
@PurpCat @Milo @S-Config @wowaname @RK7
>In particular; it's because rage and drama and arguing breed interactions; especially with the right demographic for this.
I used to be into that stuff back in my late high school and college years, but I can barely stand to even look at that stuff anymore. I actually regret being into that stuff because I wasted a lot of time when I could've used that time to study for school or practice programming. Pretty much every celebrity who took part of any side of GamerGate or the culture war turned out to be a huge grifter and/or lolcow anyway.
@wowaname @Milo @PurpCat @S-Config @RK7 @Hephaestic Virtually every gaming circle had at least one person talking about it. It may have caused a lot of people (not just 4chan) to leave certain communities after said communities made their official stance on the issues. It also brought attention to several alternative sites that would've never gotten popular otherwise (8chan being the most notable example). It truly did change Internet culture.
I think it was virtually impossible to ignore it as a gamer unless you're one of the few people who simply just play video games and never discuss them online or consume any gaming-relating content online.
Ironically those types insisting gamergate and other poor responses to corporate media conglomerates are some sort of right wing thing is probably the one thing that ended up steering people away from the left. Like, if someone's going to spend a decade saying it's extremism for people to notice a conflict of interest at a gaming site, then yeah they're probably gonna pick the opposite of what that individual is selling.
@PurpCat @Milo @S-Config @wowaname @RK7 @Hephaestic Fchan still exists.
http://fchan.us/
/furry/ was a strange mixture of 8chan freedom culture and modern furfag culture. It was down the street from /pol/ and /gghq/ and people would make threads about community figures being groomers, but then you'd have replies like "omg the straights are being prudish as usual."
>i will say to their credit that the kiddy boards stayed to themselves
That may have been true to some degree in like 2014-2015, but even if they didn't post CP on other boards all the pedos on 8chan did spend a lot of time arguing that CP was free speech (the proximity of those two ideas is suspiciously common in arguments pushed by federal agents). The laissez-faire attitude of hotwheels became more jaded over time as it kept cropping up where it shouldn't have been.
"Here's the scene from American Beauty where the 17 year old is topless, if this is good enough for theaters then I can post 8 year olds getting raped all I want"
If pedos show up on any site they should be banned on sight, no questions asked, they're parasites and subhuman
>If pedos show up on any site they should be banned on sight
yeah a majority of them are idiots who are less mature than the age group they wanna fuck. however, (this doesn't have to do with what happened on anime.website but) i've talked to people who identify as paedophiles, specifically the ones who can keep their mouths shut about it and otherwise tend to be intelligent and/or interesting. some of them have dealt with their own trauma, affecting their sexuality, so i see it more as an affliction than a desire for them
idk how i feel about ryonaloli (the guy who used to host gurochan before ghosting) because he claims to have adopted a girl and moved to a country where he can get away with doing certain things to her. idk if he was seriously that fucked up or if it was all a prank bro, but that's an example of one of those "otherwise smart" people who seriously needs to get checked out. and since we're talking about imageboards, i find him to be a not-so-honourable mention here
@RK7 @PurpCat @S-Config @wowaname @mrsaturday @Hephaestic On one hand, I do get that he doesn't want his lasting legacy to be "the guy who created the Nazi pedo site that led to three mass shootings", especially given that people with his condition don't live very long. On the other hand, he killed a bunch of communities that had nothing to do with the shootings in the process and that led to many people giving up on imageboards entirely.
@PurpCat @S-Config @wowaname @RK7 @mrsaturday @Hephaestic It seems like everyone who has ever ran an imageboard ends up regretting it because the community ends up something completely different from what they intended (which is inevitable unless you use rules to enforce the culture you want) which just leads them to becoming backstabbers. Even before Christchurch you could clearly see that he was becoming disillusioned with 8chan.
The only people who were gamedevs were just chiming in from the sidelines for or against it and the pro-GG devs were lower on the totem pole than the anti-ones (and it included a LOT of failed devs who were trying to blame solely the media for their falings).
@wowaname @Milo @PurpCat @S-Config It's not "imageboard mentality". I doubt most Poast users ever touched an imageboard. They were probably watching alt-right/dissident right Youtubers/podcasters before Poast came around, given that they still talk about them like it's 2017. At least 8chan had a disdain for such e-celebs.
And I think "egoistical pitfalls" will always happen unless you have complete anonymity. If you cause enough drama, someone will start archiving and cataloging everything you have posted and put them up on a pastebin, wiki, forum thread, etc.
>"egoistical pitfalls" will always happen unless you have complete anonymity.
to a fault, i'm incapable of holding grudges and will only judge someone by name if they crossed my boundary and disrespected me on a personal level. i don't need anonymity when i mentally filter out people's names if what they post is otherwise good
You just don't see that side of the internet for the same reason you don't hear about iOS features if you have an Android phone, like "green bubbles" or live voicemail.