It looks like Codeberg just banned all cryptocurrency related projects, but it was to be expected, given the CEOs relation with Drew DeVault and them taking more far-left stances as of late.

I guess there is simply no viable alternative to GitHub unless you self-host. Maybe the Git-over-Nostr solutions would take off, but I am sick and tired of people bringing unrelated politics into the FOSS movement.

codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pull

@xianc78 > https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/Community/issues/2184
> the entire offchute thread is just the "everything is political" copes

this is, largely, why i took so goddamn long to ever make a codeberg account at all.
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@icedquinn Codeberg seemed like the least political out of all the GitHub alternatives (besides GitLab), but over time, that became less and less the case. They always had a ban on the promotion of National Socialism, but at least that has a clear definition.

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@xianc78 srht was closer to that. codeberg has always been.. very left-winger.
@icedquinn @xianc78 it's good I didn't ever register on codeberg, but I never knew they had a relation to drew or srcht..

Things like this make me question if there's really a reason to not self host, given all the LLM scraping on labor platforms, and then political decisions
@subnetter @xianc78 the llm scraping happens either way it's just now you get to pay for it literally and with lost productivity being a subpar network admin.
@subnetter @xianc78 the politics is just general baseball at this point. FSF did a really bad job communicating the point (armoring the commons from capture, anti-enclosure) and the corpos have done a great job defanging it (RMS is problematic guys, only solution is MIT licenses [and not armoring the commons against us anymore guys] :drgn__w_:) and the left wingers would rather purity spiral in to irrelevance than commit to popper (the actual popper position which requires tolerating unpopular arguments that haven't escalated to direct system hostilities) so uh.

:comfystoner: idk
@subnetter @icedquinn @xianc78 well do we really need git anymore if we can just pair program with LLMs faster than you can review PRs? like instead of a PR it's more sane to just have a bug report system and have the LLMs fix it based on the ticket rather than spend the time to read some potentially insecure, potentially backdoored code

@icedquinn I saw a little left-wing bias in them, but I didn't see them as a problem. I thought they would be okay with someone who would be considered moderately right-wing like me, as long as I don't talk about idpol, but apparently not.

@xianc78 i no longer claim a political affiliation. legally speaking, i'm a cyberneticist now. :blobcatnomouth:

@icedquinn I've toned down on my political rhetoric in recent years because I realized that talking about politics publicly all the time is a quick way to become a lolcow and/or get stalked by feds.

@xianc78 i learned libertarianism from people that are classically known to be libertarian (heinlein, pauls, old american text) and lolberts proceed to tell me i don't understand the assignment :neocat_up_paws:

@icedquinn The term "libertarian" has evolved over the years. In fact, when the word was first coined, it was strictly a philosophical term and had nothing to do with politics whatsoever. It basically had to deal with the whole "does free will exist" question. These days, it just means if you believe in negative liberty.

@xianc78 traditional americans hated the east indie company so its funny that lolbert has become "what if google got to do whatever it liked" when the actual libertarian position is "google is fucking shit and we shouldn't let it in our country"

@icedquinn Google is probably a CIA creation so even the free-market libertarians should oppose it's existence.

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